A default eq on the master or just new monitors?

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I had the idea the other day, but havent been able to try it yet, but wanted to through it out there or get a better idea from the gurus of the trade. :drunk:

I have a pair of MAudio BX8a's and as all of you should know are very biased in the response on the low and high ends. I had the idea to throw an EQ on the master track to compensate for the highs and lows. In my mind it would take some playing with obviously to see what helped it translate better. But have any of you tried this or know a better way?

Just FYI I have a pair of hs50s in the works if I can get my eBay seller to send me. stuff:mad::cursing:
 
Then your meters wouldn't accurately represent your levels, and you'd have to remember to turn it off when you export the mix. External eq would be a better way to correct for speaker issues, and in any case you would want to accurately measure their response so your eq settings don't do more harm than good. By the time you buy what you need for that you might as well get better monitors.
 
bouldersoundguy said:
By the time you buy what you need for that you might as well get better monitors.
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Ahhhh I didn't think of the metering. Im already spending that on monitors. Just was looking for a quick fix until I get them in.
 
Metering or not, this is ALL about the actual monitoring chain. Assuming the room is in decent shape and it's a simple preference, you can usually make minor tweaks to the monitors without much issue - Minor tweaks.

If the room isn't in order, or the tweaks are excessive (more than a dB or two), then you'd definitely be better off with different boxes.
 
Massive Master said:
Metering or not, this is ALL about the actual monitoring chain. Assuming the room is in decent shape and it's a simple preference, you can usually make minor tweaks to the monitors without much issue - Minor tweaks.

If the room isn't in order, or the tweaks are excessive (more than a dB or two), then you'd definitely be better off with different boxes.
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The room is descent. Absorption panels, traps, inscents and whatnots. It's not a phenomenal facility by any means.

The the monitoring chain comes from the 003 to a monitor station and then to the boxes.
 
EQ on the output is best used for a quick fix to a bad sounding room rather than bad monitors. I would suggest new monitors but before that I would suggest treating your room.

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EQ on the output is best used for a quick fix to a bad sounding room rather than bad monitors. I would suggest new monitors but before that I would suggest treating your room.
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I'm assuming you meant the opposite, but to avoid any confusion -- NO amount of EQ will fix a bad sounding or improperly treated room. A whisker of EQ *can* be used to alter the frequency response of the monitors for preference (they sound "fine" but "a little hot around 3k" or what not).

In any case, EQ'ing for preference should only be done in a properly treated room in the first place (as any monitoring chain will only ever be as accurate and consistent as the space they're in).
 
ecktronic said:
EQ on the output is best used for a quick fix to a bad sounding room rather than bad monitors. I would suggest new monitors but before that I would suggest treating your room.

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No amount of eq will correct holes in the response that are due to cancellation resulting from multiple arrival times, but it can be helpful for making more moderate corrections to speakers as long as there aren't similar holes in the response from things like poorly designed crossovers or simple lack of LF extension.
 
I'm purchasing new monitors regardless, but I'll take a closer look at my room as well.

How far should the listening position be for a monitor the size of the bx8s? Sometimes it seems you have to crank it a bit to get them to 'fully voice'. Then it seems I'm to close to get a proper low end perspective. So I have to scoot back a bit. I know the rule of the equal lateral triangle set up but not sure on what the distance should be for larger monitors.
 
In the best possible world your listening position would be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the distance from the wall you are facing, with 1/2 to 2/3 of the room behind you.

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c7sus said:
In the best possible world your listening position would be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the distance from the wall you are facing, with 1/2 to 2/3 of the room behind you.
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I'm not sure I can spare the room. The space is only 12 x 16 with a desk, upright piano and drum set. Not I deal I know, but its just what I have to deal with at the moment.
 
.38 the length of the long wall from the short wall. In your case, you want your head to be 6.1 feet from the short wall. Assuming you have the speakers around 1.5' out from the wall, you have around a 4.5' triangle (and I'd submit that you want the intersection point several feet behind you).
 
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