2 Quick writing questions

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With me, it highly depends on what I'm trying to accomplish with a song. Is it poetic, cryptic, straight foward? Hell, as shallow as it seems, sometimes trying to come up with lyrics that "sound cool" can turn into the most meaningfull set of words you'll ever put together. Just look at Chino Moreno's lyrics.

Plus, a big thing for me...never look to rhyme. Why bother forcing words that sound the same. You're not really conveying as much of a point.
 
Im not here to argue. Besides, my advice is always rooted in genuine concern over pursuit of artistic excellence, or humor. Those are good things.


An interesting way to approach making "art".

Could you point us to examples of songs you (or others) have written using such a process?
 
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well... my 2 cents?

I can remember a BUNCH of times, when I was a teenager I'd buy a brand new cassette I wanted (before CD's? LMAO), and of course be able to do NOTHING on teh ride home from the mall except look at the fold out liner. You hoped to see a B-I-G fold out thing, lots of stuff to check out, feel like you got yer 10 bux worth, you know?

anyhow, when I would READ all teh lyrics first this way? You can almost NEVER tell a THING about the song by reading the lyrics. A few of the songs would look just horrible on paper, lyrics wise... but MAN, when you heard it, it was the best song ont eh damn casette, you know?

PS - you can get some "extra wiggle room" fitting lyrics to music by knowing dipthongs (sp?), and when to use harsh consonants, when to use vowels... which vowel sounds fit easiest with which chords and keys... blah blah.

for ME, I didn't know what a dipthong was, and was like "whoa... THATS what that thing the singers alwasy do is... huh..." when i read about it.

some words have too many sounds per syllable or whatever, and you skip the last one... in fact when singing, youre supposed to skip the last of the dipthong, and since i dont sing, until i READ about how singers do their thing, I didnt KNOW.

Look at an elton john song, for chrissakes... if you dont count repeats, and repeats he only changes a tiny thing lyrically... heck, like 2 sentences covers 92% of all the lyrics of teh song... his 4 minute song, though... SOUNDS like it has a 4 sheet lyric book to it, though... but its "deceptively" only 2 to 4 short sentences.

dont look down at your lyrics and go "christ no, thats sappy... rip-tear-rip-tear".... or think "screw me, i can only get 3 short little lines. What the ^%$#!!"
 
All of the above advice is more co-misery than actual help if the end result you desire is a method that will provide you with art that you feel reflects your personality at its most brilliant. There is a better way.

But first allow me to be of emotional assistance. OP you are only 18. Which has 1 main advantage and 1 main disadvantage. The con is that you likely have very little experience. Which accounts for your lack of confidence in your tunes. But dont feel bad cause you have time on your side. There are MANY illusions in the creative process that you can see through as you progress. Your goal should be to gain as much XP as you can while you can, so that you dont waste the opportunity that comes naturally with the brevity of youth.

NOW, heres how to write great lyrics every time, easily. MAKE A SEED LIST.

Seed list is a list of words that have high emotional impact, that you personally like the sound of. The word PHANTOM for example. Its a great high emotionally impacting word that also sounds cool when spoken. So go through ALL your favorite albums and books and movies and write down in categories of nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc EVERY ONE YOUD LOVE TO USE. That is the part of the process that makes it YOUR personality. You will need hundreds of each category. ONLY CHOOSE THE HIGHEST EPA WORDS. That way youll be using only or mostly words that due to connotive value in society will leap off the page. Then start narrowing the lists down over time. Circle the words and phrases you MUST use that you personally LOVE.

Then start rhyming them in couplets based on standard rhyme schemes and study up on the emotional impact of the different types of rhyme (true, near, mosaic, wrenched, etc)

In time you will do this procedurally, no longer sitting waiting for an idea to happen to you, you will make it happen.

This sht works man, youre welcome

WOW..great advise..I will start doing this, cant hurt to try something new!!
Besides..Im getting board out of my mind sitiing in the studio everyday and coming out with nothing new!!
 
...whad I'd suggest is for you to show your lyrics/work to one or two of your closest friends/relatives (from whom you will surely get an unbias opinion) and evolve from there...

I'm sure I know what you're saying here. But I suggest that NO
opinion, particularly about music, is "unbiased". No matter who
you are, no matter your skill or experience level, there will
be 50 people that LOVE your work and 50 that HATE your work.

Lumpy

You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.

www.LumpyMusic.com
 
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