2 easy questions

  • Thread starter Thread starter relaxandreflect
  • Start date Start date
R

relaxandreflect

New member
1. Why can I not control the level on the track that is being recorded in the mix? I have a few backing tracks and am recording vocals on top. When I move the volume sliders for each track, the prerecorded ones change, but the vocals will not while they are recording so they are too loud. I have it setup for Audition Mix and have tried both of the settings for this.

2. Is is possible to move sliders during playback and have this reflect in the final mix. For example, if the vocals are too low in the beginning but loud in the middle, can I set the volume higher on the beginning, but change it during the song and have this captured in the mixdown? If so, how do I do this?

Thanks in advance for your help. I have searched in the manual, this forum, and the net, but think I am missing something.
 
regarding number 2:
Im not sure about the sliders, but assuming that whatever part gets louder becuase something was changed between takes, can't you bring the track that you want to fix into single track mode and then compress or amplify it? Even if it was one take, you can hilight certain parts and do the same thing.
 
travisisgood said:
regarding number 2:
Im not sure about the sliders, but assuming that whatever part gets louder becuase something was changed between takes, can't you bring the track that you want to fix into single track mode and then compress or amplify it? Even if it was one take, you can hilight certain parts and do the same thing.
Click to expand...

I want to be able to control each track separately. If I turn down the vocals, the signal is too low and there is background noise. I should be able to monitor all tracks at once. Nothing I seem to do in the application changes the level of the tracks being recorded.
 
In order to change the volume level on a track, you must turn on the Volume Envelopes. Then you can fine-tune the levels at different points in the track. Moving the volume controls changes each track "globally" -- in other words, if you change the volume 2:15 into the song, the volume will be changed for the entire length of the track. The volume envelopes let you mute, ramp up and down, and do all the other things you would do with the faders on an analog rig.

The volume envelopes are lines drawn on the track. Click on the line, and a point appears that can be dragged to a new position (up for louder, down for quieter); depending on the version of the software, the beginning point can be reset up or down.

The later versions allow you to "write" to the volume envelope if you have a compatible control surface. In that case you can indeed use the "sliders" on the control surface to make the volume go up and down during the playback of the track.
 
Oh yeah, I now see that the other response didn't say anything about the first question.

The answer is that you adjust the volume of the live track through your interface. You can't adjust the level via the software in the versions I am familiar with.
 
lpdeluxe, thank you. That is exactly what I was looking for. I figured the interface was the only way to adjust incoming signal. Are there any other softwares that would allow this, or is Audition about the best to use?
 
Cool Edit Pro/Abode Audition is the only software I've used (starting with CEP 1.2 and ending with AA 1.5 -- I don't get along with the changes made to 2.0) so I'm not the one to say...but after looking at other programs, I think that Audition is as easy to use as any. You'll find similar limitations in other software, especially if you're looking for an "all-in-one" solution.
 
relaxandreflect said:
1. Why can I not control the level on the track that is being recorded in the mix? I have a few backing tracks and am recording vocals on top. When I move the volume sliders for each track, the prerecorded ones change, but the vocals will not while they are recording so they are too loud. I have it setup for Audition Mix and have tried both of the settings for this.

2. Is is possible to move sliders during playback and have this reflect in the final mix. For example, if the vocals are too low in the beginning but loud in the middle, can I set the volume higher on the beginning, but change it during the song and have this captured in the mixdown? If so, how do I do this?

Thanks in advance for your help. I have searched in the manual, this forum, and the net, but think I am missing something.
Click to expand...

simple answer is your tracking too hot. you cant adjust levels manually whilst recording and capture it in.
what you want to do is record with less gain, then match your levels to the beat by adjusting volume levels/compress/anplify/eq etc.

if your beat is louder in parts than others you can adjust in manually by goin to edit mode or you could use dynamics processing to equal it all out.
there may be other or better methods, im pretty new to mixin but this should be a start
 
Thanks. That is great information. I am just learning as well.
 
lpdeluxe said:
In order to change the volume level on a track, you must turn on the Volume Envelopes. Then you can fine-tune the levels at different points in the track. Moving the volume controls changes each track "globally" -- in other words, if you change the volume 2:15 into the song, the volume will be changed for the entire length of the track. The volume envelopes let you mute, ramp up and down, and do all the other things you would do with the faders on an analog rig.

The volume envelopes are lines drawn on the track. Click on the line, and a point appears that can be dragged to a new position (up for louder, down for quieter); depending on the version of the software, the beginning point can be reset up or down.

The later versions allow you to "write" to the volume envelope if you have a compatible control surface. In that case you can indeed use the "sliders" on the control surface to make the volume go up and down during the playback of the track.
Click to expand...

In AU 3 the volume envelope with follow the on screen mixer as long as the channel is set to write. You can then go back to the envelope and make fine adjustments.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top