10x10 Storage Unit(Cement Floor, open ceiling, metal walls.)

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:(This is What I am Using:

8 foot desk, 2 KRK st6's, 2 krk Rokit 5 g1's.

This Is my Issue:
flat bass sounds, almost no bass below 100hz

I have not put any acoustic foaming around the walls and no carpet on the floor, also no bass traps.

Will that resolve my issue?

Yes I am new and the closest thing i found in the search bar was "Home Garage Studio, shed studio and attic"
 
I'm so used to the big bass sound and low end from my st6's... now it sounds like some bookshelf speakers... ahh the pain... the dissapointment.... there must be a save, i had so much spirit and faith in this storage unit when i bought it and signed the papers... please help.
 
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current setup above


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Metal/concrete room, I bet you're geting huge high-end refelctions, and with a small square room, all sorts of sound issues. Bass traps in all corners (top to bottom) for a start. Bass traps also absorb mid and high frequencies. Foam only absorbs highs (if anything).
 
Acoustic foam will help with the high frequencies but won't do anything for the bass ranges (or even the lower mids really).
You should look to do thick bass traps in the corners of the room and look to thick trapping behind listening position to bring up those low frequency nulls.
I would imagine in your room due to your dimensions there's a ton of resonance/muddiness at 110 and 55 Hz, with very thin bass in between. Concrete rooms typically need a lot of treatment compared to a standard walled room, and cube rooms (that have all the same dimensions) are the worst case scenario (well other than being at the center of a sphere - but the worst case of a standard box room). Even with loads of treatment it won't be anywhere close to perfect but you can hopefully get it workable. You can use the following as a guide for treatment: Acoustical Room Advice |
 
ElDoroddy,

Your problems are mainly and will continue to be the cube of a room. This does not work well. I would highly recommend trying to find another place. Treatment can really help, but you will need a room FULL of it. - Maybe 16 soffits from GIK and then treat all the remaining walls and ceiling with traps at least 4" thick.

my 2 cents. ;)

Cheers,
John
 
Thanks John, I will try it, but then if it doesn't work i'll build an extra room.

You have all been very helpful and appreciate you all's tips.

Thanks for sharing with the community and taking time to respond, it is highly appreciated.

-Eli
 
I will say I've seen some pretty good results with only a couple soffits in a square room (my own room, actually) - but I have a lossy window in front of me and it's got a square footprint but the height isn't the same - and it's typical residential uninsulated walls with lossy doors too - and even then I've dampened the resonance a good bit at 55 Hz but only in a small sweet spot area. Very difficult to get a great response in a very small cube room with solid walls over a decent sweet spot area. Taking steps towards the treatment is always more beneficial than doing nothing though, and treatment can always be moved to the new room if you needed.
 
When you say storage unit - one of those uninsulated all metal ones (garden shed type)? If so, that puppy will get hot and cold! Are you insulating it? I had a small room in I built in my garage years back. Had to add a window air unit and a space heater.
 
I haven't been all that active for a while, but there's a member here (or possibly former member since he seems to have his own site now) named John Sayer... And if memory serves me, about 15-18 years ago he was the lead acoustic engineer when they redesigned Abbey Road Studios... (I'm guessing atm since I do definitely recall The Beatles and White Album being mentioned along with his name - and that's where the White was recorded)

Anyway as I remember it John was very free with his advice (Applying all the math etc in laying out a room's acoustics etc) ... all you had to do was upload your floor plan (including ceiling height and any obstructions like duct work etc), tell him what purpose you wanted (ie: Remix station / vocal booth / etc) and he'd post a set of prints showing exactly what HE would do if it were his space....

If you do wanna check him out he's here... I don't consider this "spam" since I'm not afiliated with him and he IS a member (or former member) of this forum...

John Sayers' Recording Studio Design Forum • Index page
 
Tanlith,

John Sayers has a nice forum and a good home studio design service but I very seriously doubt he had anything to do with Abbey Road.. he's from Oz, anyway. And 15-18 years ago? NO that was probably John Storyk, but definitely NOT Mr. Sayers.

Anyway, Very true about the windows and light frame construction helping with cubic dimensions. Definitely worth a try if you can't find anywhere else. :)

Cheers,
John
 
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