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well this looks pretty interesting! "Each of the Octane's eight channels features the preamp technology found in M-Audio's DMP3 mic preamp" http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/M-Audio/PR/Octane.html

So Studio Projects has an 8 channel pre (tube/solid state blend thing?)...I heard nothing on that piece, but no sign of the VTB-2????

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Index/ here's more from NAMM

Middleman thanks! I'm just down the road from you in costa mesa/newport.

the DMP3 verse the RNP on the following in your opinion: 1. drum overheads 2. snare 3. kick 4. toms thanks

you're right, but since they're both somewhat made by 797 audio I thought there might be more to the fact than just looking alike!

my mc012's are dead on as well, but the mk319's are a bit different, not so much tonally but one mic is 2-3db louder than the other. another interesting way to test out the 319 in a store is to flick each mic with your finger. (when hooked up to monitors) I noticed due to the hollow design of...

I havent been around long enough to know if this has been hotly debated? however, since it has the words Behringer and Studio projects I imagine it has!.... if this was a previous war then I apologize for re-hashing it. I understand behringers practices of out right copying but, have these two...

whats the headroom like on that P-1 and how well would it work on snare drum (i usually dont compress my snare on the way in) but how would that limiter/expander work? ...I hate a squashed sounding snare!

yeah I agree, there's so much BS out there these days, its worse than ever. now will some A+R fool take a chance on this stuff, probably not, but he's a fool chasing his and everyone elses tail anyway. its indeed a sad state of affairs. probably more the reason you should keep doing what you're...

I remember when visiting Groove Tubes headquarters last year, they were showing me their current line of mics and a few new designs they were working on. when speaking with owner Aspen Pitman, who was the designer of their mics (as well as the co designer of the vipre) he was very involved and...

I like the Groove Tubes Model 1B better than the Rode NTK. a bit fuller in the lows not as scooped across the mids...its a great mic.

Just to be clear! I in know way was insinuating any sarcastic or negative response towards Gidge, quite the opposite. I was more shocked the unit was rated so low given the popularity of that piece and was asking him if he noticed it as well!

Its no real shock!..I have a small color TV in my gym thats well over 15 years old, looks as good as the day I got it. also an old pioneer tuner with seperate casette player, and big ol floor speakers all of 20 years old working just fine!.....its just a fact of society today, most stuff is...

I tried em for toms. I A/B'd the 58 and the 57's for that same reason and went with the 57..its not that they sounded any better or much better, but the 57 was easier to place and direct. the 58's picked up more bleed, but not by much. it depends on how many toms your mic'ing if all you need is...

Gidge, did you see the rating on the DM3 from your list? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040113170432068011240254216616/g=live/search/detail/base_pid/241101/

I just checked back into this thread and cant believe it has grown to 7 pages, what a waste! you know NAMM is this week, there's gonna be a lot of things to chat about, why dont we end this?...no more wallowing around in the mud!

no need to apologize its all relevant when comparing pieces in the same class...make sure you post your experience with the Rane as its nice to have more user opinions....I know I'm interested. thanks

whatever happend with the VTB-2?

hey Beez, I was looking for a single pre for my snare drum. at the moment my GR ME-1NV is on kick and for main vox, bass, I use the RNP for drum overs, stereo apps. and many other things. I was going to try and get 4 more channels of clean pre's to start cleaning up my drum pre's (using mackie...