fixing harsh vocals without using soothe

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i frequently record a friend who isn't really a good singer. just basically screams into the mic, a shure sm58. i frequently have trouble locating and dealing with some harsh resonances in his vocals.

when i cut too much it sounds muddy, if i do too little it sounds harsh. any ideas ?

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GONZO-X said:
TRY WAVES CURVES EQUATOR
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ok thank you.. dont have a bunch of third party plugins at the moment. only have wave tunes, j37 and CLA 2A. so i would appreciate ideas that don't rely on plugins but on technique. dunno if that makes sense but ya !
 
ndking said:
i frequently record a friend who isn't really a good singer. just basically screams into the mic, a shure sm58. i frequently have trouble locating and dealing with some harsh resonances in his vocals.

when i cut too much it sounds muddy, if i do too little it sounds harsh. any ideas ?

I'm new here
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Don’t use Auto Tune - also are you Speeding the Vocals up?
 
If you could post something that isn't altered by the autotune and whatever else you got going on, would be useful. i.e. raw track.
 
ndking said:
ok thank you.. dont have a bunch of third party plugins at the moment. only have wave tunes, j37 and CLA 2A. so i would appreciate ideas that don't rely on plugins but on technique. dunno if that makes sense but ya !
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technique,
takes years and years to learn well.

so there's that.

this 3rd party plug only cost 39 clams.
not a deal breaker.

this plug, goes beyond 'technique'.
yes, you can do all of this without the plug, i've been doing it for years, but with only varying degrees of sucess.
i'd say this cuts my mix time down to less than half.
 
GONZO-X said:
technique,
takes years and years to learn well.

so there's that.

this 3rd party plug only cost 39 clams.
not a deal breaker.

this plug, goes beyond 'technique'.
yes, you can do all of this without the plug, i've been doing it for years, but with only varying degrees of sucess.
i'd say this cuts my mix time down to less than half.
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ok, I'd take your word for it. gonna go check it out
 
If you wish, you could send me the vocal track. I can tune it with Melodyne and see if we get better results.
 
ndking said:
ok, I'd take your word for it. gonna go check it out
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ONE of the hardest things for me to learn how to do, as far as mixing goes (i've been doing this since the mid 80's) is to find the frequencies that cause masking.

you can use Spectrum meters (most all DAWs have this) and you can isolate tracks, use parametric EQ's, dynamic EQ's, multiband compressors, there is a whole bag of tricks for solving these kinds of problems,
but they are all time consuming.

there are other more expensive plugs designed to solve resonance issues (soothe 2)...
but for bang for buck, this is the best plug i've found yet.

it also is useful as a sidechain tool,
you can set up the mixer so that the lead vocal will 'duck' the guitars, at some active level, and at only the places where resonance builds up, and this is a great way to open up a mix.

and it does it fast.
 
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