question about problem with my hearing

It is a serious defect? I play piano. In normal life I don't have a problem with hearing.
..Any defect can be serious.

On concert, I used specialist ears plugs like ACS.

How can I do to improve my hearing?
I think it is a situational thing. You have so much hearing, and then it is gone. Conservation will help retention. Turn things down to when they almost cannot be heard. Enjoy it that way.

The fool drives down the street windows open BOOM BOOM subwoofer...Letting it all go 'out the window' so to speak. Put some mufflers on your dope ride, then you wont need to turn it up loud or pound the subwoofers till the rearview mirror vibrates to the music.
 
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I would say that losing 30dB at 4kHz at age 32 is quite serious. At 32, I could still hear 15kHz from both ears. Back then, the use of hearing protection wasn't very widely promoted unless you were in places that had very high noise levels.

You should go see a specialist who can determine the source of the problem. It won't get better on it's own.
 
Until 2020 to 2021, 2022 my hearing worsened from 10DB to 30DB on the left ear.

It is a serious defect? I play piano. In normal life I don't have a problem with hearing.

How can I do to improve my hearing
It could be a defect - or it could be you have a wax build up - at 32 years old and without any serious injury or stroke I would lean towards ear wax.
Just get some cleaner - I use Debrox - and clean your ears - if big gobs of wax don't come out - go to a doctor. 32 db is very serious if it's not wax.
 
You haven't lost 30dB that is a lot, you've lost 20dB - the base line is at -10. You have also only lost it above 2.5K where it starts to drop. most people won't notice a 3dB drop, and yours is selective deafness, not across the board. Speech is centred around 300-3K, so this is why you don't notice it.

You'll also be favouring your better ear. Your brain does this for eyes and ears. It notices before you do and compensates. In your case, it means that localising lower pitch sounds works well. But a higher pitched sound you will struggle to determine location without rotating your head, which I bet you've started to do subconsciously. My guess is that its gone for good but at 32, hearing does sometimes return a little, but once those little hairs on the inside of your cochlea are damaged, they are gone for good. If your drop in performance is something that a surgeon can fix, then maybe it's worth investigating. I guess the audiologist would have looked in the ears and warned you if they could see something?

You can devise your own more musical test. The intervals between test tone frequencies on these tests are pretty far apart - they rarely test between them. They don't test above 8K, so harmonics are never checked for. You can download some test tones and stick them into your DAW and with some good headphones produce a more accurate chart in terms of pitch and volume, but of course your system unlike proper ones is not calibrated, but ⅓ octave spacing of tones and an on screen meter to set levels can produce a better defined curve that will mirror theirs but be repeatable whenever you want. Just make a note of the volume settings so you can compare test with test and use the fader to determine the point you can hear it. then select another tone and repeat. Hospital style hearing tests are only interested in speech - not music. A hearing aid is programmed to have the reciprocal curve - so at 2.5K when your hearing drops off you apply boost. You can even try this yourself in any old DAW. My feeling as an amateur at this is that wearing the protection is now critical, to prevent further drop off, but to try to see if there is something you are doing that is speeding it up? 32 is a bit young for this kind of reduction, so could there be a medical issue? Infections of the inner ear, sinus issues and things like tinnitus mean If these tests were from an audiologist and not a doctor, then a referral to the specialists could be a good move. Of course, they'll say the other is is fine and it doesn't matter - but it does!
 
You haven't lost 30dB that is a lot, you've lost 20dB - the base line is at -10. You have also only lost it above 2.5K where it starts to drop. most people won't notice a 3dB drop, and yours is selective deafness, not across the board. Speech is centred around 300-3K, so this is why you don't notice it.

You'll also be favouring your better ear. Your brain does this for eyes and ears. It notices before you do and compensates. In your case, it means that localising lower pitch sounds works well. But a higher pitched sound you will struggle to determine location without rotating your head, which I bet you've started to do subconsciously. My guess is that its gone for good but at 32, hearing does sometimes return a little, but once those little hairs on the inside of your cochlea are damaged, they are gone for good. If your drop in performance is something that a surgeon can fix, then maybe it's worth investigating. I guess the audiologist would have looked in the ears and warned you if they could see something?

You can devise your own more musical test. The intervals between test tone frequencies on these tests are pretty far apart - they rarely test between them. They don't test above 8K, so harmonics are never checked for. You can download some test tones and stick them into your DAW and with some good headphones produce a more accurate chart in terms of pitch and volume, but of course your system unlike proper ones is not calibrated, but ⅓ octave spacing of tones and an on screen meter to set levels can produce a better defined curve that will mirror theirs but be repeatable whenever you want. Just make a note of the volume settings so you can compare test with test and use the fader to determine the point you can hear it. then select another tone and repeat. Hospital style hearing tests are only interested in speech - not music. A hearing aid is programmed to have the reciprocal curve - so at 2.5K when your hearing drops off you apply boost. You can even try this yourself in any old DAW. My feeling as an amateur at this is that wearing the protection is now critical, to prevent further drop off, but to try to see if there is something you are doing that is speeding it up? 32 is a bit young for this kind of reduction, so could there be a medical issue? Infections of the inner ear, sinus issues and things like tinnitus mean If these tests were from an audiologist and not a doctor, then a referral to the specialists could be a good move. Of course, they'll say the other is is fine and it doesn't matter - but it does!
I have tinitus, it is not a serious thing, i have droppoff above 3k I have had a hearing test. It was pretty much due to playing loud in small practice rooms and going to loud gigs when I was young. Its something I live with. Its one of those things. I know I guy Russ who is pretty much deaf in one ear but he is just about the finest guitar player still in my area.
 
I have tinitus, it is not a serious thing, i have droppoff above 3k I have had a hearing test. It was pretty much due to playing loud in small practice rooms and going to loud gigs when I was young. Its something I live with. Its one of those things. I know I guy Russ who is pretty much deaf in one ear but he is just about the finest guitar player still in my area.


My fat baldy old git friend John is on bass. We worked together for many years in the 80's and 90's when he was skinny and had a mullett. He is a top go to session player now.
Ian Halforld on drums, he is also a highly respected session player.
John and Ian work with a great band called Groove Train. Check them out.
 


My fat baldy old git friend John is on bass. We worked together for many years in the 80's and 90's when he was skinny and had a mullett. He is a top go to session player now.
Ian Halforld on drums, he is also a highly respected session player.
John and Ian work with a great band called Groove Train. Check them out.

 
Yes, get the ears checked out ASAP there might be some underlying disease that is causing the deafness and getting advice early is vital as we all know.



You might be suitable for simple surgery? I have to go to the ENT dept later this month and I might be offered a stapendectemy. Which can improve hearing in some cases.



I shall not have the surgery because at 77 and having other medical conditions I am not prepared to take even a tiny risk. At 32 however, worth a shot?



Rob's point about the brain compensating for one defective ear or eye is a very important one. Especially with eyes. People rarely cover one eye at a time to see if there is a difference?



You must. If you find slight loss of central vision or/and 'knks' in vertical and horizontal edges (TV graphics are good for this but computer text lines can show it) get thee to an eye casualty dept PRONTO!

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Dave.
 
A friend of mine works at a world famous overseas venue dealing with the orchestra and they all have tests and dose meters which indicate when the accumulated level means days off to recover. Hearing loss is hugely expensive to manage but they do it. Hearing recovery from physical damage to the mechanism is possible but damage to the sensing parts are usually unfixable.
 
Two years ago I started to notice a loss of hearing in my left ear and at that time I was doing a lot of recording and mixing. I went to an ENT and to my surprise the cause was wax build up. The ENT removed the wax and did a hearing test that showed that my hearing is still quite good with only a small loss in the upper mid frequency range. I do have tinnitus but it is not too bad. I assumed that I would need to adjust all of my recent mixes due to my hearing being back but everything still sounded good so the hearing loss did not seem to affect mixing.
 
I read somewhere that it takes your brain about ten minutes to re-adjust to sight and sound changes. Like when you wear Elton John colour sunglasses, or have hearing protection that distort what comes through. After ten minutes or so, there have been enough clues for colours to be re tweaked and changes in frequency response adjusted out. Damn clever brains.
 
I'm 62 and I've had a constant ringing in my ears for about 30 years. It didn't bother me then, it still doesn't. It's pretty loud.

I can still hear fairly well. But, I know I'm missing some frequencies. I do have a hard time with low talkers. Surprisingly, if I listen, I can clearly hear what people are whispering.

Hearing loss is something you have to deal with when you play music. Especially that devil's music, known as rock and roll.
 
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