Remix of Prior Song

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Hey guys, I posted this song like 3 weeks ago. Here's a remix after much re-thinking.

- Redid my vocal so it's not as pitchy hopefully.
- Added my GF for a supporting vocal
- Thinned out the arrangement
- Redid bass track without rolling off so much high end
- Tried to fix "phasey" snare

Let me know how it sounds now. Unless something is majorly wrong I'm going to call it done.

https://soundcloud.com/suicidevan/poland

Thanks!
 
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I like this mix best of the ones I've heard. I'm hearing the bass now. Kick is at a good level, not so overpowering as the last mix. The lead and harmony vocals blend nicely. The lead guitars parts panned wide are at a nice level. Good job.
 
Listening as I type. The overall impression is favorable. I liked this one the first time around, but had some gripes, although I can't remember exactly what they were. lol

It's sweet that the GF joined in. Was she like enthused to do it, or did you have to coerce her? I haven't had much luck in that area thus far. I think her part is really cool. I would bring her up a bit myself. I can hear her, but would like to hear her a bit more...maybe because it's just new and novel to me? I guess trust your gut on that. Did you play it back for her? If so, did she have an opinion? I remember that she hated my john lennon cover, so I've kind of got it in for her, but I'm trying to be diplomatic. lol

So yeah, I really enjoyed hearing this again. Love the melody and the mood it sets. I've listened a few times now and will likely again over the weekend.

And yes, I like this vocal take of yours better. It isn't like night and day vs. the other version, but better. Solid this time, but maybe not exceptional? Last time it was not solid, but bordering on exceptional...lol. God, it's so dry though...do you hate reverb or are you just not familiar with it? Sorry, reverb junkie here...

Honestly, the drums and guitars sound a bit dull to me this time around. They could use more of an edge and/or brightness to my ears, but then, you hear my stuff as harsh, and I hear yours as dull, so maybe we just have different ears, or preferences, or reference points, or whatever. It's so tough to be objective. I think if you put this one to rest as is you'd have nothing to be ashamed of. I myself would mix it quite differently, but perhaps not for the better?
 
Hey thanks Heatmiser.

I didn't have to coerce the GF. She likes doing it, or pretends to at least. Haha.

I did EQ one of the guitars to take out some high end. Mostly because it felt brittle/fuzzy and the vocal was clashing with it. I could try putting that high end back in and messing with the volume. Is it worth it? I'll tinker and see.

I like reverb and use it on here. I only like to use enough where if you remove it it's noticeable, unless I'm using as an effect like on that Beck song. Then I like to drench it. But in general reverb vocals sound old fashion to my ear, like Roy Orbison, and don't really fit with the style. I'll do it, though, if called for. A new song I'm working on uses reverb. So it just depends. Thanks for the feedback, Heatmiser!
 
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LOL @ roy orbison! Shit I feel old all of the sudden. I don't even like his music, but I understand what you mean.
 
heatmiser said:
LOL @ roy orbison! Shit I feel old all of the sudden. I don't even like his music, but I understand what you mean.
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Haha. Roy is cool.

Great voice and being drenched in reverb fits him. Sometimes it fits for sure.
 
This is much better than last time!

I'm not comparing back to back with the original but this just seems to have a bit more room to breathe.
The vocals are too up front for me, but then I like more 'verb than you, you're probably right for the genre.

Your missus backing vocals are a nice addition too.
 
heatmiser, i went back and looked...holy crap, you were right on the dull guitars -- i found one that must have been set in error, probably while automating I accidentally hit this, and i just didn't notice (ear fatigue probably). Thank you! It was at -18db cut on a key upper frequency during the guitar solos. lolol

I also added 1db more of reverb. : P
 
JDOD said:
This is much better than last time!

I'm not comparing back to back with the original but this just seems to have a bit more room to breathe.
The vocals are too up front for me, but then I like more 'verb than you, you're probably right for the genre.

Your missus backing vocals are a nice addition too.
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Thanks JDOD appreciate the listen and feedback on the arrangement changes.
 
Nola said:
heatmiser, i went back and looked...holy crap, you were right on the dull guitars -- i found one that must have been set in error, probably while automating I accidentally hit this, and i just didn't notice (ear fatigue probably). Thank you! It was at -18db cut on a key upper frequency during the guitar solos. lolol

I also added 1db more of reverb. : P
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Ah yes, how perceptive of me to detect a minus 18db cut!
 
I remember this song from the first time you posted this and I still like it. :D One thing that's bugging me is the sound that's passing for the snare sound. It has a strange flam sound, more like a blown raspberry than a snare. Is that intentional and part of your vibe? I thought it might be an artefact of Soundcloud, did you upload a WAV or an Mp3?

It's a little low in overall level compared to other tracks I listen to.

I like quirky stuff, and this is no exception. :thumbs up:
 
Sounds really good, I like the new backing vocals. I'm missing the sliding guitar line behind the vocals, though. If I remember correctly, it used to happen earlier in the song, and it was less subdued. I liked it that way. For me personally that was what hooked me in. That little moment when my ears perk up and I say "Oh shit!" and start listening with more interest. Overall great mix, though.
 
paulman77 said:
Sounds really good, I like the new backing vocals. I'm missing the sliding guitar line behind the vocals, though. If I remember correctly, it used to happen earlier in the song, and it was less subdued. I liked it that way. For me personally that was what hooked me in. That little moment when my ears perk up and I say "Oh shit!" and start listening with more interest. Overall great mix, though.
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Thanks!
Interesting you remembered that!

I kept it for the 2nd verse b/c I didn't want it gone entirely and by that point the song is noisier, but I didn't think it fit with the new arrangement since verse one has a quiet vocal. I'll rethink that and see if I can do anything. You'd put it there behind the verse 1 vocal even though it's much quieter now?
 
Hmm. Well, I'd try to put it there, just lower, maybe more distant sounding than it will be later. The intimacy of the vocals on that first verse is nice, so don't ruin it, but I would try to make that guitar line work there if possible. I really think it's a good hook, and why not hook them in right away?
 
paulman77 said:
Hmm. Well, I'd try to put it there, just lower, maybe more distant sounding than it will be later. The intimacy of the vocals on that first verse is nice, so don't ruin it, but I would try to make that guitar line work there if possible. I really think it's a good hook, and why not hook them in right away?
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Cool thanks for the suggestion, I will try it.

I figured the last section of the song could use the lift more, so I used it there. And the first verse now had the harmony/quiet thing going on, so when the drums kick in there's a lift. I thought that would give interest to the first part, then add the slidey riff in the 2nd part for that section's lift. That was my thinking. I'll experiment with it, though, thanks!
 
Nola said:
Cool thanks for the suggestion, I will try it.

I figured the last section of the song could use the lift more, so I used it there. And the first verse now had the harmony/quiet thing going on, so when the drums kick in there's a lift. I thought that would give interest to the first part, then add the slidey riff in the 2nd part for that section's lift. That was my thinking. I'll experiment with it, though, thanks!
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Makes sense. Maybe you could just hint at it in the first verse. Like play a few notes at the beginning of the first line, and stop and have it echo away. Then you don't hear it again until the lift later. OR you could just leave it the way it is. It's great now.
 
paulman77 said:
Maybe you could just hint at it in the first verse. Like play a few notes at the beginning of the first line, and stop and have it echo away. Then you don't hear it again until the lift later.
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That's exactly what I was thinking when you said to put it back. Or play it on a nicer instrument, like an organ or acoustic guitar, so it's not clashing with the vocal as much. Later in the song I don't care if it clashes since I've added more energy, but during that quiet section it's tougher to figure out!
 
I listened to the previous version and i really like this version very much, it has an unique style and feel which is very catchy, on the mixing part there is only the snare sound that kept me intrigue , not entirely unpleasant but it could be part of the idea of the song
 
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