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Ok, that makes it easier on me really dude, I saw a 2016 SG T for like $750 new, a P-90 version is like $1200....I might just go that route man, we'll see whenever I get my hands on the $$$...
 
minerman said:
Ok, that makes it easier on me really dude, I saw a 2016 SG T for like $750 new, a P-90 version is like $1200....I might just go that route man, we'll see whenever I get my hands on the $$$...
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Look for SG Specials. They're usually stripped down P-90 SGs. I see them all the time for around $500.
 
I had half an hour playing loud with the JVM this evening and decided that OD green wasn't quite cutting it with the amount of available gain in order to get the controlled feedback that I want, So I dialled back the gain and switched to orange mode. I was presented with some naughty, squealy feedback. Now, it doesn't do this with my cheapo guitar that has had the 'bucker wax-dipped, so I'm assuming that the increased gain in conjunction with the more midrange-voiced JVM is making my SG2000 pickup unhappy. The probable reason for this is that the pup needs wax-dipping like all my other Jap pups have needed doing over the years. It's gone into the shop tonight for the "treatment". I'll let you know how it goes. :)
 
On the SG, I've pretty much decided to get an SG Special, & try it out for a while before performing any mods to the p'ups. Hell, it might sound different enough from my LP without swapping p'ups, won't know until I try....The p'ups in the SG Special are the same as my LP, only without covers....

Something like this:

Gibson SG Special Faded 2016, Traditional - Worn Cherry, Chrome Hardware | Sweetwater.com

I like the cherry color, but can't stand the worn brown, I personally think it looks like shit, but that's just me...

Something that does concern me is most Gibsons nowadays have the quick-connectors on the p'ups. If I were to get the Duncan p'ups I linked, I'd have to do some extra wiring to be able to get all 3 sounds from the p'ups, which I'm sure I can do, but the ad for the p'up states I'd need push-pull pots, or a 3-way mini toggle to access all the sounds...

Looking at the SG Special's specs, it doesn't say anything about push/pull pots, but my 2014 LP does have 'em....

Any thoughts on this????
 
Greg_L said:
Damn, you don't get sweet ass feedback with OD Green? That's weird.
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Maybe none of my pickups are hot enough, or I don't play loud enough, or some other factor. :D When I switch to orange mode on a very low gain setting, the magic starts to happen at standard gig volume. I can't seem to make it happen on the green channel. :)
 
minerman said:
On the SG, I've pretty much decided to get an SG Special, & try it out for a while before performing any mods to the p'ups. Hell, it might sound different enough from my LP without swapping p'ups, won't know until I try....The p'ups in the SG Special are the same as my LP, only without covers....

Something like this:

Gibson SG Special Faded 2016, Traditional - Worn Cherry, Chrome Hardware | Sweetwater.com

I like the cherry color, but can't stand the worn brown, I personally think it looks like shit, but that's just me...

Something that does concern me is most Gibsons nowadays have the quick-connectors on the p'ups. If I were to get the Duncan p'ups I linked, I'd have to do some extra wiring to be able to get all 3 sounds from the p'ups, which I'm sure I can do, but the ad for the p'up states I'd need push-pull pots, or a 3-way mini toggle to access all the sounds...

Looking at the SG Special's specs, it doesn't say anything about push/pull pots, but my 2014 LP does have 'em....

Any thoughts on this????
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My only thoughts are:
1) don't try to make one guitar do too much. Buy your SG special with the P-90s and use it! There's no need to overcomplicate things unless you're gigging and you don't want to be changing guitars every song.
2) Push-Pull pots truly suck. Go for a push-push pot. Allparts do them.
 
minerman said:
I'll be getting $"X" every month, for the rest of my days, should have the first check in about a week or so....
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Miner's shout.... I'll have a double thanks. :thumbs up:

Glad to hear it's worked out well for you dude.:)
 
Minerman
"Well, let's just say I won't have to worry about being able to pay my bills every month like it has been for the past 6 months or so...I honestly don't know how to act, & the only thing I'll have to do the rest of my days is go to the mailbox...."
That's sounds great mate.
I hate to be a downer - but I urge caution.
My wife was medically retired in 2007 - deemed unable to work in any form of employment for the rest of her life.
She worked for the govt. so it seemed like it was certain she'd receive a reasonable portion of her former pay until retirement age.
2 years later she was dumped from the scheme by the private insurers who had bid for and won the contract to administer the govt. scheme.
They'd sent her to a different medico every month, (she had to relive the events and such every time she was called upon & that was painful as well), until they found just one who said they "suspected" she may be able to stack shelves. They even used the same Dr twice using a different name for her to cook their stats. It took until 2014 for get that over turned and an acknowledgement of wrong BUT because of changes in legislation & the statute of limitations she was awarded a couple of years salary and some damages but NO ONGOING financial support. Even from that award she had to pay back the govt pharmaceutical benefits for all meds during the time andthe govt. medicare scheme for all visits to the Dr (and she had at least one per month to get the Workcare cert. stating she was unable to work as well as present ALL bills for those things). We were advised, to get anything better, we'd have had to take on a 2nd & purely civil suit against the company - not govt - and her health wasn't up to it. We only afforded the 1st suit because our union funded it, (luckily they were awarded costs). Be cautious, keep ALL paperwork & receipts, look into the related legislation and contracts as well as who provides the funds - most particularly if it's a private co that bid for the business as they'll be the most eager to make a PROFIT. My wife is still a decade away from the pension and has no funding - we live on my wages, they are decent, and carefully management of her award.
That said CONGRATULATIONS on having some weight taken from your shoulders.
 
Amistice: Thanks dude, all this still hasn't sank in yet, but it's a big relief....thanks again!!!

rayc said:
Minerman
"Well, let's just say I won't have to worry about being able to pay my bills every month like it has been for the past 6 months or so...I honestly don't know how to act, & the only thing I'll have to do the rest of my days is go to the mailbox...."
That's sounds great mate.
I hate to be a downer - but I urge caution.
My wife was medically retired in 2007 - deemed unable to work in any form of employment for the rest of her life.
She worked for the govt. so it seemed like it was certain she'd receive a reasonable portion of her former pay until retirement age.
2 years later she was dumped from the scheme by the private insurers who had bid for and won the contract to administer the govt. scheme.
They'd sent her to a different medico every month, (she had to relive the events and such every time she was called upon & that was painful as well), until they found just one who said they "suspected" she may be able to stack shelves. They even used the same Dr twice using a different name for her to cook their stats. It took until 2014 for get that over turned and an acknowledgement of wrong BUT because of changes in legislation & the statute of limitations she was awarded a couple of years salary and some damages but NO ONGOING financial support. Even from that award she had to pay back the govt pharmaceutical benefits for all meds during the time andthe govt. medicare scheme for all visits to the Dr (and she had at least one per month to get the Workcare cert. stating she was unable to work as well as present ALL bills for those things). We were advised, to get anything better, we'd have had to take on a 2nd & purely civil suit against the company - not govt - and her health wasn't up to it. We only afforded the 1st suit because our union funded it, (luckily they were awarded costs). Be cautious, keep ALL paperwork & receipts, look into the related legislation and contracts as well as who provides the funds - most particularly if it's a private co that bid for the business as they'll be the most eager to make a PROFIT. My wife is still a decade away from the pension and has no funding - we live on my wages, they are decent, and carefully management of her award.
That said CONGRATULATIONS on having some weight taken from your shoulders.
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Damn Ray, that truly sucks man. I'm not gonna say that won't happen to me, because you never know, but I personally think that it's highly unlikely...That does sound like a nightmare dude, but again, I think that it's highly unlikely for them to reverse this on me....Thanks for the heads-up Ray..
 
rayc said:
Minerman
"Well, let's just say I won't have to worry about being able to pay my bills every month like it has been for the past 6 months or so...I honestly don't know how to act, & the only thing I'll have to do the rest of my days is go to the mailbox...."
That's sounds great mate.
I hate to be a downer - but I urge caution.
My wife was medically retired in 2007 - deemed unable to work in any form of employment for the rest of her life.
She worked for the govt. so it seemed like it was certain she'd receive a reasonable portion of her former pay until retirement age.
2 years later she was dumped from the scheme by the private insurers who had bid for and won the contract to administer the govt. scheme.
They'd sent her to a different medico every month, (she had to relive the events and such every time she was called upon & that was painful as well), until they found just one who said they "suspected" she may be able to stack shelves. They even used the same Dr twice using a different name for her to cook their stats. It took until 2014 for get that over turned and an acknowledgement of wrong BUT because of changes in legislation & the statute of limitations she was awarded a couple of years salary and some damages but NO ONGOING financial support. Even from that award she had to pay back the govt pharmaceutical benefits for all meds during the time andthe govt. medicare scheme for all visits to the Dr (and she had at least one per month to get the Workcare cert. stating she was unable to work as well as present ALL bills for those things). We were advised, to get anything better, we'd have had to take on a 2nd & purely civil suit against the company - not govt - and her health wasn't up to it. We only afforded the 1st suit because our union funded it, (luckily they were awarded costs). Be cautious, keep ALL paperwork & receipts, look into the related legislation and contracts as well as who provides the funds - most particularly if it's a private co that bid for the business as they'll be the most eager to make a PROFIT. My wife is still a decade away from the pension and has no funding - we live on my wages, they are decent, and carefully management of her award.
That said CONGRATULATIONS on having some weight taken from your shoulders.
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I think my first angry reaction is how can a new "owner" revoke something that was already established? I'd say it should have been grandfathered. The same thing happens with the Worker's Compensation Board here in Canada - basically the insurance company for injured blue collar workers.
What's the scoop on her Super Annuation (not sure what they call it)? Is that only paid out at 65?
 
ido1957 said:
What's the scoop on her Super Annuation (not sure what they call it)? Is that only paid out at 65?
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As the board's resident expert on Australian superannuation* - it's spelt "superannuation" and mostly just referred to as "super" and access depends upon age - called your "preservation age" - and it's a sliding scale depending upon whether you were born before 1 July 1960 (age 55) or after 30 June 1964 (age 60), or somewhere in between. You also have to be officially retired - you don't just get access when you turn a certain age.

There are "permanent incapacity" and "compassionate grounds" payout options depending upon qualification / assessment etc. if you haven't reached your preservation age - I'm sure ray's been through all this already in terms of his wife's super.

Hey ray - I'm just going through NSW WorkCover at the moment because of my arm/wrist ... man, what a bureaucratic nightmare! But nice having someone else pay the bills, especially when they involve multiple MRIs and specialists! ... :D




* I work for a financial services company building transactional websites, specifically in the super area, and I've learnt a lot on the topic purely via osmosis / unavoidable exposure ... :)
 
Gerry,
Kim was given her superannuation payout upon med. retirement but, as she was a 3 day a week worker on almost base wage across 15 years, it didn't add up to much and was consumed by costs if running around for years doing all the stuff needed and paying Dr fees etc. as well as her attempt to pay her own way for as long as possible.The union was great but costs awarded were for legal fees etc and didn't cover her out of pocket expenses or non prescription meds etc. She can get the old age pension at 67 I think.
The OWNER is still the govt & they retro'd the legislation and grandfathered nothing because the private sector wouldn't have bid for something that actually mean paying out properly. The insurance company delayed, sent Kim for extra tests, questioned her sanity and required that to be assessed, required that I take out govt. managed power of attorney over her finances, medical etc - all of which takes months & years to do through tribunals etc. Every time we were due for arbitration or mediation they'd throw up another block and we'd have to work through it. They knew, all along, that the longer they pushed the more likely the limitations and progressive, (regressive), wind back of worker's compensation would see them pay less & less. They did just that. When it came to the crunch, when they could avoid it no longer, they sent a jnr solicitor to the final meeting with instructions to do nothing and agree to nothing for as long as possible. In the end the arbitrator made the sol. ring his superiors & then brokered a deal that, given the outcome, meant the insurance Co. paid as little as possible. Sad but true - Australia is a socialist wonderland but that is slipping away very quickly. Thanks for your anger though - it is righteous anger. It's also reality that my state is governed by a conservative party that is hell bent on selling all public assets, particularly the ones that make good money, & there are a few, as well as wind back spending on every thing except - well, you know the drill.
david,
I went through that for a weird RSI thing. They covered all of that easily enough as it wasn't much cost - just x rays, cortisone injections and physio. The paper work was, as my wife coined the term, "administrauma."
 
Wow Ray, that's just awful man. Really, really shitty of those fuckers to pull that shit, but it happens here too. My Dad was hurt in a mining accident & fought the company (plus their compensation company, lawyers, etc) that he worked for at the time for months & months before he finally got what any $$$ from compensation. I was still in high school (I was about 15), & if my Mom hadn't have worked at the time, I don't know what we would've done. I remember Mom going to the state to try to get food stamps & financial aid, but our family was denied because Dad made too much $$$ to qualify. Mom & Dad damn near lost everything they had at the time, but the 'ol man finally got a lawyer & everything was set right, but still, it's shitty to be treated like that...:mad:.


I appreciate the concern & cautioning Ray, but I don't think anything like that's gonna happen with me. Or at least I hope not anyway...Since I'm no longer able to work, if something like that did happen to me, I'd just do what about 50% of the folks that live around me do, I'd start selling drugs.....:)























Just kidding on the dope slingin' thing man....:D.
 
Miner, going back to the P-Rails pickup, duncan makes a replacement mounting ring called the triple shot that would be an easy way to control those P-Rails without drilling for mini switches or installing different pots. I almost went this route with my Epi LP special destruction/modification I did a while back but couldn't justify spending that much money on it and used what I had in my exiting stash of crap to finish out the electronics.
 
got a a busy week with gigs every day and a few doubles from last Wed thru the next Sunday but yesterday pointed out to me that I'm old.

Saturday night I played a pirate festival up in St. Augustine .... it was a big deal. A national organization of pirates with the Who's Who of pirates from all over the country.
The load-in was a bear with us having to haul a lot of gear thru 150 yards of gravel ... really wearing.

'twas fun .... but I got to bed around 3am .... (found out where the 'arghhh' comes from .... it's the next morning! :D)

So anyways ... bed at 3am and then I had to get up at 6:30am because I have an every Sunday gig in Ponce Inlet starting at 9am so I know it'll be a bit rough .... playing a gig on 3 1/2 hours of sleep.
But I make it thru the gig alright ... tear down and am on my way home about 2pm .... feeling a bit funky and thinking about getting something to eat and crashing .....

Phone rings ..... it's agent guy .... "can you do a double at Traders in New Smyrna at 4pm ?"
me with a tremor in my voice ....." ummmmm .... yeah?"
agent ... 'great ..... I'll call them and tell 'em"

so I turned around and headed to a gig ..... another 4 hours of singing and schmoozing on 3 1/2 hours of sleep ......... got home around 10:30pm. :eek:

All my gigs involve significant equipment haulage and except for the pirate gig they're all solo so it's just me ..... I feel like someone beat me up.
Glad I never have vocal issues though, thank goodness.

ahhh ..... ok .... time to run some errand before heading to tonight's gig.
 
Bob, you should write a book on the reality of what its like for most people who make a living as a professional musician. Its not all snorting coke out of a playboy bunny's arse crack that's for sure!
 
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