Very obscure Alice Cooper cover.....

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I don't have anything to offer on mixing suggestions but I do have a question about your guitar setup.

Your guitar sounds a little bit thinner and less "round" (?). Kinda like more of a fuzz than a smooth humbucker distortion. I'm not saying that any one is better or worse but I did notice it and was wondering what setup was used in the original and what you are using.


One thing that I liked is that the lead guitar was well hearable. One thing that bugs me about old guitar recordings (lets say 60s- many 80s records) is that the lead guitar often doesn't get any room to breath between the backing intruments leaving it feeling less spectacular when a really powerful lick is played.

You have a great voice too :)!
 
I don't have anything to offer on mixing suggestions but I do have a question about your guitar setup.

Your guitar sounds a little bit thinner and less "round" (?). Kinda like more of a fuzz than a smooth humbucker distortion. I'm not saying that any one is better or worse but I did notice it and was wondering what setup was used in the original and what you are using.


One thing that I liked is that the lead guitar was well hearable. One thing that bugs me about old guitar recordings (lets say 60s- many 80s records) is that the lead guitar often doesn't get any room to breath between the backing intruments leaving it feeling less spectacular when a really powerful lick is played.

You have a great voice too :)!
Thanx a lot Arnold. :D

I only have a Strat, so I used that on the neck pick-up. I'm not crazy about my sound, my guitar sounds better for leads when I use the bridge pick-up. But I used the neck pick-up to get a little closer to the original. I'm pretty sure that both guitar players in the original Alice Cooper band (Michael Bruce and Glen Buxton) used Gibson SG's. Problem is, it's not 100% sure that either one of them did those leads. Guest guitar players often did the the guitars because Glen Buxton was often too fucked up too record. But I'm assuming the original is done with a Gibson.
 
Weren't you talking about getting an SG a while back?

Yeah man, good memory. And I still will, but at the time, I thought I could only afford an Epiphone. Business has been pretty good and I'm now pretty close to buying a Gibson. I got a few thousand in the bank now. I just want to wait until I get some dental work done.

It was a bit of a blessing in disguise at the time that I was about to buy an Epiphone. First, I spent a few hundred on vet bills that didn't save my cat. Then, I had a few fillings and teeth fall out (I'm not a hillbilly or anything :D ). I think something happened after my surgery last year. My teeth started breaking and falling out. It was weird. But anyway, it made me wait before buying a guitar, which was great because now I can afford the real thing. I'll be re-doing a lot of guitar tracks when I get it, including the leads in this tune.
 
Yeah man, good memory. And I still will, but at the time, I thought I could only afford an Epiphone. Business has been pretty good and I'm now pretty close to buying a Gibson. I got a few thousand in the bank now. I just want to wait until I get some dental work done.

It was a bit of a blessing in disguise at the time that I was about to buy an Epiphone. First, I spent a few hundred on vet bills that didn't save my cat. Then, I had a few fillings and teeth fall out (I'm not a hillbilly or anything :D ). I think something happened after my surgery last year. My teeth started breaking and falling out. It was weird. But anyway, it made me wait before buying a guitar, which was great because now I can afford the real thing. I'll be re-doing a lot of guitar tracks when I get it, including the leads in this tune.
I'm under the impression that you are in Canada? If so. how is health care there?
 
Awesome, not about the teeth, but about getting the real deal.

Some of the Epi SGs are really nice though, but I hear ya. It's great to get a killer guitar, one that you really want. IMO an SG is just right for your sound and style.

I've got my sights on an SG too. Not anytime soon, but it's on my wish list and will happen eventually. I keep seeing white SG Standards at music shops and they just call out to me. I want one.
 
Awesome, not about the teeth,
Hehe...Yeah, I'm exaggerating for effect. I lost only one part of a tooth and a couple of fillings. :)

I keep seeing white SG Standards at music shops and they just call out to me. I want one.
I know how you feel. Mine's got to be cherry red.
 
I'm under the impression that you are in Canada? If so. how is health care there?

Health care is awesome here. I had a surgery last year that cost me exactly $0.00. No exaggeration, the same thing would have cost me about $40,000.00 in the States. I don't have dental insurance, though. So that comes out of my pocket.
 
Awesome, not about the teeth, but about getting the real deal.

Some of the Epi SGs are really nice though, but I hear ya. It's great to get a killer guitar, one that you really want. IMO an SG is just right for your sound and style.

I've got my sights on an SG too. Not anytime soon, but it's on my wish list and will happen eventually. I keep seeing white SG Standards at music shops and they just call out to me. I want one.
Quit talking about guitars you bastards! I had 30 guitars stolen from my studio in Nashville. One of my favourite guitars was a 61 SG with the chrome tailpiece and tremolo with the white plastic thing on the end. I recently saw one like it for sale for $20,000.00. I swear I'd kill the MF that stole my guitars if I could get my hands on him! One was the LP that had been used to record Judy In Disguise, by John Fred and the Playboys. I hurt every time I think about those guitars!
 
Quit talking about guitars you bastards! I had 30 guitars stolen from my studio in Nashville. One of my favourite guitars was a 61 SG with the chrome tailpiece and tremolo with the white plastic thing on the end. I recently saw one like it for sale for $20,000.00. I swear I'd kill the MF that stole my guitars if I could get my hands on him! One was the LP that had been used to record Judy In Disguise, by John Fred and the Playboys. I hurt every time I think about those guitars!

That's odd, I just bought a 61 SG with the chrome tailpiece and tremolo with the white plastic thing on the end from some dude in Nashville for 50 bucks!
 
That's odd, I just bought a 61 SG with the chrome tailpiece and tremolo with the white plastic thing on the end from some dude in Nashville for 50 bucks!
LOL! You MF!
 
Health care is awesome here. I had a surgery last year that cost me exactly $0.00. No exaggeration, the same thing would have cost me about $40,000.00 in the States. I don't have dental insurance, though. So that comes out of my pocket.
That's what I thought. I have friends in Canada and they all say the same thing. The asshole politicians and insurance fuckheads here all tell us how how awful the healthcare is there. The population here is ignorant of the real facts.
 
Love it RAMI. Tight as a drum, as always.
How did you go about recording the keys in the end?

Thanks for sharing. :)
 
That's what I thought. I have friends in Canada and they all say the same thing. The asshole politicians and insurance fuckheads here all tell us how how awful the healthcare is there. The population here is ignorant of the real facts.
Yeah, I don't want to take sides in the whole Obamacare thing, because I think American politics is just a partisan clusterfuck that's doing nothing but hurting the country. Democrats will always be on one side of an argument and Republicans will always be on the other, regardless of right or wrong. It's more about right or left, even if that's got nothing to do with it. They give you the "choice" of voting for one scum-bag, crooked millionaire or another and call it "freedom". It's a fucking joke.

Having said that, I don't see Communism sweeping Canada even though we have Medicare.
 
Love it RAMI. Tight as a drum, as always.
How did you go about recording the keys in the end?

Thanks for sharing. :)
Thanx Steen. Yeah, I should have gone back to that thread and kept you guys up to date on what I did. I totally forgot about it. I ended up just taking the headphone out into the interface. I actually combined the stereo lines into one mono jack.
 
Thanx Steen. Yeah, I should have gone back to that thread and kept you guys up to date on what I did. I totally forgot about it. I ended up just taking the headphone out into the interface. I actually combined the stereo lines into one mono jack.

No sweat. I forgot to check back too. :facepalm:
Keys sounded fine to me. Love those vocals, as ever.
 
Thanx a lot Arnold. :D

I only have a Strat, so I used that on the neck pick-up. I'm not crazy about my sound, my guitar sounds better for leads when I use the bridge pick-up. But I used the neck pick-up to get a little closer to the original. I'm pretty sure that both guitar players in the original Alice Cooper band (Michael Bruce and Glen Buxton) used Gibson SG's. Problem is, it's not 100% sure that either one of them did those leads. Guest guitar players often did the the guitars because Glen Buxton was often too fucked up too record. But I'm assuming the original is done with a Gibson.

I knew it sounded like a single coil but I didn't want to put my money on it. :)

There's not really much you can do about it in that case. The original definitely sounds like a neck humbucker, most likely an LP or SG, like you said. Very smooth, creamy, etc.

Did you really do everything yourself? My band's recordings don't even sound nearly as "together" as this one does.
 
I knew it sounded like a single coil but I didn't want to put my money on it. :)

There's not really much you can do about it in that case. The original definitely sounds like a neck humbucker, most likely an LP or SG, like you said. Very smooth, creamy, etc.

Did you really do everything yourself? My band's recordings don't even sound nearly as "together" as this one does.
Yeah, I'll be re-doing those leads when I get a nice, juicy SG. My Strat is one of those Strats that actually has a humbucker, but it's in the bridge position. It still sounds like a bridge pick-up, so I went with the neck pick-up anyway, even though it's a single coil.

Yes, I do everything myself. It's the first time I record a piano, someone just gave it to me a few weeks ago. Took me quite a while to be able to play and record that piano part. I refuse to use a sequencer or MIDI, so I had to practice my ass off....all for a cover song that MAYBE 12 people will ever hear, if I'm lucky. It's all for the love of music. :)
 
Yeah, I don't want to take sides in the whole Obamacare thing, because I think American politics is just a partisan clusterfuck that's doing nothing but hurting the country. Democrats will always be on one side of an argument and Republicans will always be on the other, regardless of right or wrong. It's more about right or left, even if that's got nothing to do with it. They give you the "choice" of voting for one scum-bag, crooked millionaire or another and call it "freedom". It's a fucking joke.

Having said that, I don't see Communism sweeping Canada even though we have Medicare.
Americans are so dumb they let insurance corporations insert themselves into the equation! There shouldn't even be insurance companies in healthcare. We are the richest country in the world, but have the most expensive healthcare. And it's of low quality. I'm going to find a Canadian woman to marry and get the hell out of here. This has become a country of which I am ashamed!
 
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