is it ok to post the same question in 2 places? it concernes tutorials for Cubase 4

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Hi. I'm Billy. I'm not exactly a newbie, but shall we say, a really slow learner? I have a fairly old computer, but it's adequate. the guy who put it together for me suggested not going on the net for fear of bugaboos. so I haven't. it has no card to hook up to the internet. only thing on there is Windows XP and Cubase 4. I really need to find an easy to understand tutorial for the Cubase just to get some tracks down before I get too old. I've been at this a long time and seem to be spinning my wheels. maybe I have a learning disability. how do ya know a thing like that? anyway, help! thanks :)
 
Please only post once. No need to post the same thing multiple times.

I tell ya, Cubase isn't the easiest thing to learn. It took me quite a while and I started with a pretty old version. There is a tutorial at the top of the Cubase forum here that might help you. It's a stickie.

About the internet and your recording... well, I use the same computer for everything and I don't have any problems. But, if you keep your recording computer off the internet, it's probably better that way.
 
Sounds to me like you're computer-phobic, and nothing to do with Cubase. I've no idea what bugaboos are or why you are scared of them, but you have an old computer, basic software and don't go on the internet? - a place with hundreds of thousands of tutorials on everything under the sun?


Computer software is designed to encourage experimentation, and as software goes, cubase isn't that difficult to pick up, hence why it's popular in schools. However - for those people scared of changing things, pushing things they don't understand, then computers are a devil machine. Kids have no fear of computers, so they learn by fiddling with them. Other people need to be shown, others like following tutorials - but the learning curve if you learn like this is likely to get the computer thrown out of the window. My friend is a concert pianist and finds Cubase simply impossible. If you're like him, then frankly scrap the idea of using computers to make music, because it will drive you mad. Once you have Cubase set up, then you click record, plays something and it's done. Other people just can't do it. Some try to write down every step so they can follow it next time, but that usually fails when one small parameter gets missed or set unusually. The important thing is to understand what the buttons do so they work for you. So when you play the keyboard and nothing happens - is it something very annoying and technical, like windows didn't load a driver (so it's probably going to be shut down and start again) or that the channel you are trying to record on is set to record audio, not midi, or something really daft like a speaker turn off button is lit - or even worse, the volume is down on the amp. To do this you need to fiddle with things and experiment - you need to try the little icons to see what happens. You need to notice if little things light up when you play the keys, and then bit by bit you will start to recognise what is happening. As computers get cleverer, tracks in Cubase come in on one channel, get processed then cubase can stick them out on another. Common faults are not really even faults - Cubase sends your music out on channel 3 and 4, but you don't have those connected. Cubase has no idea. These set up functions can often be hidden, and bringing in a song from an old version of the software often results in no sound. You cannot write any of this down - YOU must discover how it works on your computer, which is different to everyone else's. If people can't cope with this, then they get stressed. This is why people still record on the sequencers built into keyboards - because it's the same each time. Computers are never like this. If you looked at my Cubase screen, you'd be lost, because things will be in different places, different colours, even different labels - but the basics will still be the same. You need to learn your own system. You will be either able to do it or not. If you can't then move on. Trying to get a non-computer brain around a computer is heartbreak time. Nothing to do with intelligence whatsoever. My wife struggles with really basic computer stuff, yet I just stayed with an old lady who has a computer and an iPad and is very confident. She knows nothing of what goes on inside - she just tries things. Other people are simply scared to try, in case they break it, or are afraid of bugaboos - what exactly are these? Sounds like something you scare kids with?
 
Sounds to me like you're computer-phobic, and nothing to do with Cubase. I've no idea what bugaboos are or why you are scared of them, but you have an old computer, basic software and don't go on the internet? - a place with hundreds of thousands of tutorials on everything under the sun?

well, bugaboos are just virus's and spyware, stuff like that. maybe I should have used a better word. sorry about that. and I have another computer for going on the internet


Computer software is designed to encourage experimentation, and as software goes, cubase isn't that difficult to pick up, hence why it's popular in schools. However - for those people scared of changing things, pushing things they don't understand, then computers are a devil machine. Kids have no fear of computers, so they learn by fiddling with them. Other people need to be shown, others like following tutorials - but the learning curve if you learn like this is likely to get the computer thrown out of the window. My friend is a concert pianist and finds Cubase simply impossible. If you're like him, then frankly scrap the idea of using computers to make music, because it will drive you mad. Once you have Cubase set up, then you click record, plays something and it's done. Other people just can't do it. Some try to write down every step so they can follow it next time, but that usually fails when one small parameter gets missed or set unusually. The important thing is to understand what the buttons do so they work for you. So when you play the keyboard and nothing happens - is it something very annoying and technical, like windows didn't load a driver (so it's probably going to be shut down and start again) or that the channel you are trying to record on is set to record audio, not midi, or something really daft like a speaker turn off button is lit - or even worse, the volume is down on the amp. To do this you need to fiddle with things and experiment - you need to try the little icons to see what happens. You need to notice if little things light up when you play the keys, and then bit by bit you will start to recognise what is happening. As computers get cleverer, tracks in Cubase come in on one channel, get processed then cubase can stick them out on another. Common faults are not really even faults - Cubase sends your music out on channel 3 and 4, but you don't have those connected. Cubase has no idea. These set up functions can often be hidden, and bringing in a song from an old version of the software often results in no sound. You cannot write any of this down - YOU must discover how it works on your computer, which is different to everyone else's. If people can't cope with this, then they get stressed. This is why people still record on the sequencers built into keyboards - because it's the same each time. Computers are never like this. If you looked at my Cubase screen, you'd be lost, because things will be in different places, different colours, even different labels - but the basics will still be the same. You need to learn your own system. You will be either able to do it or not. If you can't then move on. Trying to get a non-computer brain around a computer is heartbreak time. Nothing to do with intelligence whatsoever. My wife struggles with really basic computer stuff, yet I just stayed with an old lady who has a computer and an iPad and is very confident. She knows nothing of what goes on inside - she just tries things. Other people are simply scared to try, in case they break it, or are afraid of bugaboos - what exactly are these? Sounds like something you scare kids with?

edited to add: Rob, if it seemed like I missed most of your post, I didn't. it's a lot of information to absorb all at once. the classic p[pianist must have found some other medium. an old Studor 16 track maybe? well, I guess a classical pianist could use a 2 track reel to reel. I wish I had a good 4 track.
anyway, thanks for all the info. and yes, I'm pretty phobic. even about which virus protection to use. I have tried Norton. not good, in my opinion. nuff said. and thanks......on with the previous response......

no, I'm not into scaring kids :) maybe on Halloween. but they never get scared. usually pass by the house looking for better candy and stuff. just virus's is what I meant. thanks for your post. I think maybe I am pretty phobic. so, what's the worst that can happen? I am likely worrying over nothing.

Chili the Irish pirate suggested a tutorial art the top of the cubase page. I will check it out, and keep everyone posted on any progress I come up with. thanks!
 
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Please only post once. No need to post the same thing multiple times.

I tell ya, Cubase isn't the easiest thing to learn. It took me quite a while and I started with a pretty old version. There is a tutorial at the top of the Cubase forum here that might help you. It's a stickie.

About the internet and your recording... well, I use the same computer for everything and I don't have any problems. But, if you keep your recording computer off the internet, it's probably better that way.

thanks Chili. I won't double post any more. was there a particular tutorial you liked? I saw 3 on there. the stickeys. and are you still using cubase?

edited to add: I looked at Travis's tutorial and like it, so thanks Chili. I'll see what can get from travis :)
 
Actually, the hardware setup is the one I had in mind. Most everyone new to Cubase has difficulties setting up their audio devices. Me especially. I haven't actually looked at Travis' tutorial yet, but I will at some point.

Yes, I still use Cubase. I currently have Cubase 6.5 and don't really see a need to upgrade to the latest version anymore.
 
Actually, the hardware setup is the one I had in mind. Most everyone new to Cubase has difficulties setting up their audio devices. Me especially. I haven't actually looked at Travis' tutorial yet, but I will at some point.

Yes, I still use Cubase. I currently have Cubase 6.5 and don't really see a need to upgrade to the latest version anymore.

the guy who put the computer together for me set up the hardware, an audiophile 24/96 the best way he thought for the motherboard, hard drive and ram we could afford to put into it. I've SEEN it work.
it HAS worked. but it's been awhile since any musucian computer buddies have been over. I feel kinda lost without them. maybe I should just play around with it like Rob says. I doubt I could actually ruin anything, I hope
 
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