CrowsofFritz
Flamingo!
That's only taking me to my stream, not to anything you recorded.
That's only taking me to my stream, not to anything you recorded.
groovyisland
hay wasa
CrowsofFritz
Flamingo!
.....No.
Lt. Bob
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just takes me to a sign up page
minerman
Tonetard
OK, been messing with my amp, ampsims, daw, etc today, & here's a couple clips of some Univibe sounds....One's my DSL-1 > Greenback > '57, & the other is Amplitube 3....which clip is my DSL & which is AT3 should be pretty easy for most of you to tell, right????
There's some 'verb on both (I did my best to make 'em sound as much alike as possible), but no post-eq or processing at all on either track.....This is the rhythm guitar to the "song" I posted a few days ago btw....I was going for a Pink Floyd-ish thing with the Univibe w/reverb, & FWIW, I personally like both sounds myself....
I should have some different clips in a while too.....
Greg: What don't you like about the OCD pedal??? From what I've read, it's a good od pedal....
I'm still looking for a "Plexi in a pedal" myself, & found these:
Weehbo Effekte: PLEXDRIVE (Charvel San Dimas to HIWATT Custom 50 SA212) - YouTube
Weehbo Effekte: JCM Drive - YouTube
Pretty expensive for a pedal ($300 a pop) to me, but if the video(s) give 'em any justice to how they sound, I personally think they're pretty good....
Bob: I looked at the GFS pedals, & the "Brownie" is the one that interests me the most, supposed to be a "plexi in a pedal"....A lot cheaper than the above pedals, but not sure if it's what I'm looking for...Here's a clip by Jack Black (yes, the actor), but to be honest, the sound quality isn't really great, but it still sounds pretty good, & it's $250 cheaper than the Weehbo...
GFS Brownie Classic Distortion Overdrive guitar effects pedal demo with Stratocaster - YouTube
From what I've read on the JOYO pedals, they're pretty close to the pedals they clone/copy, so I may plunk down $50-60 on one of their Plexi-clones (the "Hot Plexi", which is a copy/clone of the Carl Martin plexi pedal) in the next week or so...
There's some 'verb on both (I did my best to make 'em sound as much alike as possible), but no post-eq or processing at all on either track.....This is the rhythm guitar to the "song" I posted a few days ago btw....I was going for a Pink Floyd-ish thing with the Univibe w/reverb, & FWIW, I personally like both sounds myself....
I should have some different clips in a while too.....
Greg: What don't you like about the OCD pedal??? From what I've read, it's a good od pedal....
I'm still looking for a "Plexi in a pedal" myself, & found these:
Weehbo Effekte: PLEXDRIVE (Charvel San Dimas to HIWATT Custom 50 SA212) - YouTube
Weehbo Effekte: JCM Drive - YouTube
Pretty expensive for a pedal ($300 a pop) to me, but if the video(s) give 'em any justice to how they sound, I personally think they're pretty good....
Bob: I looked at the GFS pedals, & the "Brownie" is the one that interests me the most, supposed to be a "plexi in a pedal"....A lot cheaper than the above pedals, but not sure if it's what I'm looking for...Here's a clip by Jack Black (yes, the actor), but to be honest, the sound quality isn't really great, but it still sounds pretty good, & it's $250 cheaper than the Weehbo...
GFS Brownie Classic Distortion Overdrive guitar effects pedal demo with Stratocaster - YouTube
From what I've read on the JOYO pedals, they're pretty close to the pedals they clone/copy, so I may plunk down $50-60 on one of their Plexi-clones (the "Hot Plexi", which is a copy/clone of the Carl Martin plexi pedal) in the next week or so...
CrowsofFritz
Flamingo!
I'm at college now so I can't post toans, unfortunately. I can, however, discuss some stuff!
I recently got a Boss DS-1 distortion pedal. I love the tone I get from this simple pedal! It's not abrasive at all.
Since I can't post a clip, the tone that I get is VERY similar to Mr. Frusciante's.
I use a strat, DS-1, Crybaby Wah, Fender 212r. Bass - 9 Mid - 6 Treble - 3
In this video, Frusciante is using that setup but with a Ibanez Wah and a Marshall with similar EQing.
I recently got a Boss DS-1 distortion pedal. I love the tone I get from this simple pedal! It's not abrasive at all.
Since I can't post a clip, the tone that I get is VERY similar to Mr. Frusciante's.
I use a strat, DS-1, Crybaby Wah, Fender 212r. Bass - 9 Mid - 6 Treble - 3
In this video, Frusciante is using that setup but with a Ibanez Wah and a Marshall with similar EQing.
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Greg_L
Banned
I'm gonna guess the first clip is the amp. It's hard to tell. They both sound pretty good to me, and with the effects and general tone, I can't say for sure, so I'm just guessing. I say the first clip is the amp because it sounds a little fuller. The second clip is brighter and clearer in the upper mids to me so I'm guessing it's the sim.
I don't dislike the OCD. I haven't really given it a fair shake yet. But it's very unlikely that I'll get the most out of it because I really don't need an OD/Distortion pedal and I'm not really even sure what to look for. To my pedal-dumb ears, it sounds about the same as a Tube Screamer or my SD-1. I'm not a dirt pedal guy. I only like them as boosts. I don't like the dirt built into pedals. I'd need to try them into a clean channel and see what they actually do, but I'm never using clean sounds. My amps have more than enough natural gain for anything I'll use them for, and I'm not a big "flavors" guy. I prefer the natural tube crunching goodness of the amp. I don't even hardly use the SD-1 or Tube Screamer I already have. I will say though that I really like my JMP with the SD-1 on all the time. With the JMP's gain around 6 or 7, and with the SD-1 set with the drive on 0 and the level and tone at 12:00, it sounds awesome. It doesn't really kick up the gain, but it tightens it up a little bit. With the JVM, the OD pedals are pretty useless. It has so many channels and modes that it doesn't need anything.
Both of those Weehbo pedals sound great in those clips. I really like the JCM one.
minerman
Tonetard
CrowsofFritz : I've never tried the DS-1, but I do have the SD-1 (Boss Super OD), & it's a good pedal IMO....I like it to tighten up an already driven amp (my DSL-1 or Egnater Tweaker), or run it into an amp's clean channel can give lots of different tonal variations. I did clip the C6 thingie in my pedal though, which is a high pass filter. With that clipped/snipped, I have to watch how high I set the tone on the pedal, or it can get quite shrill, but all in all, for $50 new, it's a good pedal......
Off topic: I see you're from Abingdon, I live about an hour or so away from there, cool to see someone that's actually pretty close here, as the folks I usually "talk" to are miles & miles away....
Greg: I'm not gonna spill the beans on the clips (yet, I'll wait until a couple more guess at 'em, if anyone does...), but like I mentioned, I tried to make 'em sound as close as possible. I do like all the options I have with the ampsims, amps, & all though. When I do spill the beans, I'll let you in on a couple little things I think are neat about these clips (you'll probably find it boring, but I think it's kinda cool)....
On the od pedal thing, I like the SD-1 ran into either of my amps, it tightens up the sound on both my amps (even the DSL can get a little "flubby" sounding in the low end IMO), but especially through the Tweaker. I feel my Tweaker & SD-1 are made for one another, just like yours & the JMP...
Those Weehbo pedals do sound good, but really, they're too expensive for an od/dirt pedal for me...., but I'm a cheap fucker too.....
You really need to try those od pedals on a completely clean amp, while it won't be anything spectacular, there will be enough of a difference in the sound that you'll notice it right away. When I use my SD-1 (or the shitty od's from the POD, the Tubescreamer emulation is really the only useable one out of about 10-12...there might be another one or two that might be ok, but about all of 'em add weird artifacts when ran into my amps), I think there's a little more clarity using the pedals for the dirt, but it might just be me, but it sounds a little brighter to my ears, especially using the DSL's clean/green channel....
I understand why you're not into those dirt pedals that much though, especially with the JVM, but with the JMP, it'd open up a whole different can of worms I'd think, especially since you have 3 different dirt pedals to choose from...I do think most (if not all) dirt pedals are basically the same though, some may have just a little differnt voicing/tonal range...Just my opinion, I'm probably wrong to be honest though...
I've been meaning to use this on a song (IE: clean channel of the DSL driven with the SD-1 on one side, & the red/dirt channel on the other...IMO it'd make enough difference/variation between the two sounds to sound like 2 completey different rigs, kinda like the Angus/Malcolm or Slash/Izzy thing, where the sounds are pretty similar in the mix, but solo'd you can tell the difference right away)...
I'll give it a little while & then let you know about the clips....
Off topic: I see you're from Abingdon, I live about an hour or so away from there, cool to see someone that's actually pretty close here, as the folks I usually "talk" to are miles & miles away....
Greg: I'm not gonna spill the beans on the clips (yet, I'll wait until a couple more guess at 'em, if anyone does...), but like I mentioned, I tried to make 'em sound as close as possible. I do like all the options I have with the ampsims, amps, & all though. When I do spill the beans, I'll let you in on a couple little things I think are neat about these clips (you'll probably find it boring, but I think it's kinda cool)....
On the od pedal thing, I like the SD-1 ran into either of my amps, it tightens up the sound on both my amps (even the DSL can get a little "flubby" sounding in the low end IMO), but especially through the Tweaker. I feel my Tweaker & SD-1 are made for one another, just like yours & the JMP...
Those Weehbo pedals do sound good, but really, they're too expensive for an od/dirt pedal for me...., but I'm a cheap fucker too.....
You really need to try those od pedals on a completely clean amp, while it won't be anything spectacular, there will be enough of a difference in the sound that you'll notice it right away. When I use my SD-1 (or the shitty od's from the POD, the Tubescreamer emulation is really the only useable one out of about 10-12...there might be another one or two that might be ok, but about all of 'em add weird artifacts when ran into my amps), I think there's a little more clarity using the pedals for the dirt, but it might just be me, but it sounds a little brighter to my ears, especially using the DSL's clean/green channel....
I understand why you're not into those dirt pedals that much though, especially with the JVM, but with the JMP, it'd open up a whole different can of worms I'd think, especially since you have 3 different dirt pedals to choose from...I do think most (if not all) dirt pedals are basically the same though, some may have just a little differnt voicing/tonal range...Just my opinion, I'm probably wrong to be honest though...
I've been meaning to use this on a song (IE: clean channel of the DSL driven with the SD-1 on one side, & the red/dirt channel on the other...IMO it'd make enough difference/variation between the two sounds to sound like 2 completey different rigs, kinda like the Angus/Malcolm or Slash/Izzy thing, where the sounds are pretty similar in the mix, but solo'd you can tell the difference right away)...
I'll give it a little while & then let you know about the clips....
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Greg_L
Banned
My problem with all that is there's no real point in using the pedals through a clean setting. I've got two of my favorite Marshalls sitting here. Setting them clean and using a pedal for gain is counterproductive. I could just plug straight in and have IMO the most beautiful gain sounds to ever come from a pile of tubes and wires. My kind of sound is nothing special. I don't do clean, I don't do modern high-gain or metal. So I lean on my amps hard and only kick in a pedal to "boost" what I'm already getting. I don't want any of their clipped fizzy dirt mucking up what I'm getting from the amp. I've tried it, I just don't like it much. The JVM has everything within it, and the JMP has about the holiest of holy sounds as far as I'm concerned. It sounds angry and humongous. So much so that I like the SD-1 to tighten it up a hair, but not change it's natural voice.
I will do some clips though in this coming week to try to showcase what my pedals do with my amps.
CrowsofFritz
Flamingo!
I've never tried the SD-1 myself! I might check it out. And I may do some recording of my own clips next time I'm home.
Cool man! Tennessee area? NC area? or North VA area? Lol, the funny thing about Abingdon is that it's pretty much the middle of nowhere but fairly close to everywhere.
Lt. Bob
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I think both sounded good really ..... thought I preferred the second one by a small margin but either would be usable.
I WANT IT!!!!
if you really want it more floydish it needs to be cleaner. That sound has that tweed kinda clean where there's still some dirt there. But for his rhythm sounds Gilmore was clean more like a pedal steel pristine clean ..... sorta treating the guitar as if it were a Rhodes piano sorta sound .... very clean and swirly.
Here's the pedal I most want for that sorta sound. Catalinbread RAH - Royal Albert Hall Edition WIIO Demo. Les Paul / Marshall JMP MKII. - YouTube
I WANT IT!!!!
minerman
Tonetard
Lt. Bob: Spot-on man, I agree, those clips were my Ibanez bridge p'up, so it's a little hotter sounding than it should be if I were trying to nail the Floyd tone....I might try the Strat I have, but it's got a humbucker in the bridge too...I really wasn't trying to nail any particular sound, it just sounded sorta like Gilmour's tone on "Breathe" to me, with the Univibe effect....
I've listened to the pedal demo (I'd heard that before, actually you posted it awhile back...), & it does sound great...Kinda expensive though, went to their site & it's $190, but still sounds great....I suppose you get what you pay for, but I'm a cheap fucker....
Greg: Oh, I know you're not into stuff like I am dude, but really, if you'd try the od pedals into the JMP set clean, you might like it....then again, you might not. You do have some kickass amps that really don't need any "help" getting 'em where you want 'em to go, so really, you're set...for a while..until you see another Marshall head you don't already have...
CrowsofFritz: I got my SD-1 for $50 new when I bought my Egnater Tweaker, almost a year ago....damn, has it been a year already??? I like it myself, it's good for tightening up the low end of a driven amp (like the T15, which "flubs" out a little when pushed...), or, like I mentioned, running it through a clean amp can give another sound, almost like another channel on the amp...
Be sure to post some clips when you get time dude, I'd love to hear 'em......
And, I live in Dryden, VA (Southwest corner of VA, a little speck on the map between Pennington Gap & Big Stone Gap, VA), I can be in Kingsport, Tennessee in about an hour, Bristol, VA/TN about the same, maybe 15-20 minutes more...I've worked with a lot of guys from Abingdon over the years...
I've listened to the pedal demo (I'd heard that before, actually you posted it awhile back...), & it does sound great...Kinda expensive though, went to their site & it's $190, but still sounds great....I suppose you get what you pay for, but I'm a cheap fucker....
Greg: Oh, I know you're not into stuff like I am dude, but really, if you'd try the od pedals into the JMP set clean, you might like it....then again, you might not. You do have some kickass amps that really don't need any "help" getting 'em where you want 'em to go, so really, you're set...for a while..until you see another Marshall head you don't already have...
CrowsofFritz: I got my SD-1 for $50 new when I bought my Egnater Tweaker, almost a year ago....damn, has it been a year already??? I like it myself, it's good for tightening up the low end of a driven amp (like the T15, which "flubs" out a little when pushed...), or, like I mentioned, running it through a clean amp can give another sound, almost like another channel on the amp...
Be sure to post some clips when you get time dude, I'd love to hear 'em......
And, I live in Dryden, VA (Southwest corner of VA, a little speck on the map between Pennington Gap & Big Stone Gap, VA), I can be in Kingsport, Tennessee in about an hour, Bristol, VA/TN about the same, maybe 15-20 minutes more...I've worked with a lot of guys from Abingdon over the years...
Lt. Bob
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trust me ..... me too .... that's why I don't have a RAH..Kinda expensive though, went to their site & it's $190, but still sounds great....I suppose you get what you pay for, but I'm a cheap fucker....
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And I'm WAY interested in those cheap pedals you found ..... they even look good.
minerman
Tonetard
Since it seems nobody else is gonna guess which is the real amp (which is cool,), the second clip is my DSL-1....But, I re-amped the di from the first clip (which is the rhythm guitar from the "song" I posted a few days ago), using the Univibe pedal from AT3 going into the amp....
That's what I was talking about I think is kinda cool, I can use the stompboxes from the ampsims & run 'em into my amp(s) if I want, & I think it sounds pretty good to be honest. Sounds way better than the shitty emulations from my X3Live, even running guitar > POD X3 > amp, the POD/X3 has a nasty, digital artifact thing when I use it in front of my amp(s), the fx loop is a little better (on the DSL, the Tweaker's loop sounds worse actually), but not much...
The ampsim clip is a Univibe pedal into a Marshall amp & cabs, with a reverb at the end of the chain (I'm guessing it's supposed to be rack stuff in the loop)...
On the DSL clip, I just bypassed everything except the Univibe, & re-amped the track (recording the Univibe'd signal through the amp...basically using AT3 as a stompbox). Then, I put AT3 as an insert, & bypassed everything except the 'verb....Some of the stomps in AT3 are actually good using 'em this way, I did a comparison between my real SD-1 & their emulation, & really couldn't tell much of a difference...Of course, some of the stomps sound like shit this way, but some are more than useable, I think.....
Like I've mentioned, I've got so many options on sounds, it's ridiculous really. I've been thinking about dumbing it down lately, I hardly ever use the X3Live, I basically use it as a "dongle" to run my Line 6 plug-ins in my daw. I could probably sell/trade the X3 for some real pedals that I'd use more (maybe a wah, another od, the time-based stuff I'd probably add in the daw anyway)...Plus, I can run my plug-ins without the X3 connected if I just update my account, I've just been too lazy for one, & the other, there were some issues with the Line 6 plugs (not having to connect your USB device), but AFAIK, they've got that fixed....
That's what I was talking about I think is kinda cool, I can use the stompboxes from the ampsims & run 'em into my amp(s) if I want, & I think it sounds pretty good to be honest. Sounds way better than the shitty emulations from my X3Live, even running guitar > POD X3 > amp, the POD/X3 has a nasty, digital artifact thing when I use it in front of my amp(s), the fx loop is a little better (on the DSL, the Tweaker's loop sounds worse actually), but not much...
The ampsim clip is a Univibe pedal into a Marshall amp & cabs, with a reverb at the end of the chain (I'm guessing it's supposed to be rack stuff in the loop)...
On the DSL clip, I just bypassed everything except the Univibe, & re-amped the track (recording the Univibe'd signal through the amp...basically using AT3 as a stompbox). Then, I put AT3 as an insert, & bypassed everything except the 'verb....Some of the stomps in AT3 are actually good using 'em this way, I did a comparison between my real SD-1 & their emulation, & really couldn't tell much of a difference...Of course, some of the stomps sound like shit this way, but some are more than useable, I think.....
Like I've mentioned, I've got so many options on sounds, it's ridiculous really. I've been thinking about dumbing it down lately, I hardly ever use the X3Live, I basically use it as a "dongle" to run my Line 6 plug-ins in my daw. I could probably sell/trade the X3 for some real pedals that I'd use more (maybe a wah, another od, the time-based stuff I'd probably add in the daw anyway)...Plus, I can run my plug-ins without the X3 connected if I just update my account, I've just been too lazy for one, & the other, there were some issues with the Line 6 plugs (not having to connect your USB device), but AFAIK, they've got that fixed....
minerman
Tonetard
You talkin' about the JOYO pedals Bob??? I dunno about gigging with 'em if you are, I've read about 'em being cheaply made, & don't know if they'd hold up draggin' 'em back/forth a lot. I know you gig a lot, just trying to give you a heads up.....From what I've read, they'd be fine for recording, but the on/off switches fail, & the in/out jacks are total crap....Just letting you know dude...
Lt. Bob
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here's another one for the Marshall sound.: Xotic Effects SL Drive overdrive
I really want the Xotic Effects SP Compressor.
I really want the Xotic Effects SP Compressor.
minerman
Tonetard
Cool man, they make the EP Boost pedal, I've heard/read it's a great little pedal....They're prices are a little better, but I did look around, & saw the new Bogner pedals (the red one is the one I'd pick...) which are....$300.....
I think I'm gonna order a JOYO Hot Plexi pedal this coming week, it's only about $50, so if it sucks, I'm really not out much. I can't try before I buy really, the hours I work don't allow me to go anywhere really, & the closest place that might have anything decent is an hour drive one way, the "local" shop/store really, really sucks to say the least. I'll buy strings there, but only if I don't wanna wait 3-5 days for shipping from an online place.....Last year (when I had the Blackstar & was looking for an eq pedal), I stopped in there & asked him to see his eq pedals, new or used. He pulls out a little Korg multi-fx thing that he's asking $200 for, needless to say, he really doesn't have a clue, & isn't interested in actually helping his customers, he's just trying to make a buck, which is cool, I know he's counting on the shop/store for his living, but give me a break....
Any more suggestions, throw 'em my way dude, I might try to sell the POD X3 Live in the near future, I should get enough out of it to get a couple/few pedals...maybe.....
I've already got one version of the Marshall thing with my DSL-1H, but the sound I've been after is the Plexi thing. I know a pedal ain't gonna get me all the way there, but if I could get closer with one of the cheaper pedals (like the JOYO or GFS), I'd be pretty happy....for a while....until GAS hits me again....
I think I'm gonna order a JOYO Hot Plexi pedal this coming week, it's only about $50, so if it sucks, I'm really not out much. I can't try before I buy really, the hours I work don't allow me to go anywhere really, & the closest place that might have anything decent is an hour drive one way, the "local" shop/store really, really sucks to say the least. I'll buy strings there, but only if I don't wanna wait 3-5 days for shipping from an online place.....Last year (when I had the Blackstar & was looking for an eq pedal), I stopped in there & asked him to see his eq pedals, new or used. He pulls out a little Korg multi-fx thing that he's asking $200 for, needless to say, he really doesn't have a clue, & isn't interested in actually helping his customers, he's just trying to make a buck, which is cool, I know he's counting on the shop/store for his living, but give me a break....
Any more suggestions, throw 'em my way dude, I might try to sell the POD X3 Live in the near future, I should get enough out of it to get a couple/few pedals...maybe.....
I've already got one version of the Marshall thing with my DSL-1H, but the sound I've been after is the Plexi thing. I know a pedal ain't gonna get me all the way there, but if I could get closer with one of the cheaper pedals (like the JOYO or GFS), I'd be pretty happy....for a while....until GAS hits me again....
groovyisland
hay wasa
dangnab soundcloud!!!!!!!!!
just search the rolling dingleberries and listen to strange thing
i am working on some new tunes
just search the rolling dingleberries and listen to strange thing
i am working on some new tunes
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jonny deep
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Greg_L
Banned
Lol. Damn dude, you're reaching the point, or maybe you're already there, in which too many gadgets, options, and flexibility is getting to you. That's cool that you can finagle all that stuff to work together, but really, finish a song!
I get it though, I like fiddling with stuff too.
I've heard good things about those JOYO pedals. Everyone that I know that has them likes them, but they don't gig with them. I'd be wary of their toughness, but in a home studio I bet they're great.