One speaker, 2 inputs

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Hi there,

We're having a duet and we're playing with backing tracks
2 voices, 2 guitars and a pc for the backing tracks
NOW.......
Up until now, we're playing with ONE speaker a Behringer B212D and we're joining the outs of our mixer, a xenyx 1202FX

I've seen around some active speakers (also behringer) that have 2 inputs.
F.E Eurolive B115 mp3, Eurolive B115D

Wouldn't that be better quality for our gigs?
Off course I know it's better with 2 speakers but portability for us is a must and if we can do the thing with one speaker it would be better

Thanx a lot in advance
 
What type of music are you playing, what type of venues? At what volume? Do you need more volume or need to spread the sound out more? Another Behr speaker will give you more volume. If you are looking for better sound quality, you will need to step up to more expensive (another brand) equipment, for example a mixer with better mic preamps.
 
We play pop-rock, small venues mainly (not more than 70 people)
Volumewise, even the speaker we have now, the b212D is pretty ok
Even qualitywise we're ok. I just wanna "send out" better, a stereo signal (such as our pc with backing tracks), instead of summing it, like we do now
 
The B115 is worth looking at in that it gives you more power, but that's about it. The two channels it has don't have any great advantage to you, seeing as you are doing your mixing already on the xenyx.

Joining the outs of your mixer is no great advantage either. Just use oneput.
 
Just mix it in mono. You're only using one speaker, so a stereo mix isn't that beneficial. It's going to come out mono anyway.
 
With some cheap mixers summing the out puts will cause a phasing type issue!
 
moresound said:
With some cheap mixers summing the out puts will cause a phasing type issue!
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Yous guys are slippin. Unless that thing is actually two dedicated inputs (not just a hardwired parallel loop) you typically do not want to combine active outputs.

playloud6 said:
And how can i listen to the hi hat that's far left if I use only the "right" output of xenyx? ;)
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I have situations where even though the pa is mono sometimes I want to grab a panned mix off the main outs for recording. You can build a little summing box, or something like this for example-
Whirlwind IMCOML IMP Line Level Combiner | Sam Ash Music 1-800-4-SAMASH
 
mixsit - I think your solution is valid but beyond the OP's needs. The problem with the Xenyx mixer is that there is no way to make the line inputs 'mono'. So he he plugs in his iPod for backing tracks into line 5/6 (for example) and needs to take the left and right outputs to a speaker to get both channels playing. In this case, a speaker with two line-ins would work - be careful in that some powered speakers offer 1 line in and 1 mic in (with preamp).

The BETTER solution for this guy is to redo the backing tracks in mono - load them into a DAW, mono the output, and render them down, then reload them into the iPod in mono, then it won't matter about panning. Stereo PA systems should generally be avoided in live situations anyway.
 
mjbphotos said:
mixsit - I think your solution is valid but beyond the OP's needs. The problem with the Xenyx mixer is that there is no way to make the line inputs 'mono'. ...
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Dudes, dudettes-- plug one side into '3/4's L/mono, the other into '5/6's L/mono.

You're right of course. That's what I get for not paying enough att to the opening post. :)
 
mixsit said:
Dudes, dudettes-- plug one side into '3/4's L/mono, the other into '5/6's L/mono.
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That's why you get the big bucks! :thumbs up: But make it 5 and 7 (1-4 are the mic inputs, stereo channels)

I just noticed the OP said he is using a PC for the backing tracks, rather than an iDevice, so he could easily switch his playback software to mono, too.
 
playloud6 said:
Up until now, we're playing with ONE speaker a Behringer B212D and we're joining the outs of our mixer, a xenyx 1202FX
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For the record, this should never be done. Jointing line outputs causes phase problems as well as problems with the fact the outputs are driving into each other, for example as you turn up the volume the left and right out is driving back against the right and left out. You will actually be getting less volume than using 1 output. There is a summing box you can make up to do this that stops the problem, link. I carry one that I made up for emergencies.

Alan.
 
witzendoz said:
For the record, this should never be done. Jointing line outputs causes phase problems as well as problems with the fact the outputs are driving into each other, for example as you turn up the volume the left and right out is driving back against the right and left out. You will actually be getting less volume than using 1 output. There is a summing box you can make up to do this that stops the problem. I carry one that I made up for emergencies.

Alan.
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I have our output "2 summed into 1" cable, built this way, with the resistors

I will try the method of 5/mono 6/mono, CLEVER, thanx
 
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