Steenamaroo
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An example would be behringer mx2462a mixer with direct outputs, and echo audiofire 12 interface with line level input only.
I definitely wouldn't recommend that road.
I definitely wouldn't recommend that road.
Do PreSonus StudioLive 16.4.2 16 come with a pre amp and if yes is it good
MissingDR.King
New member
I learn from compare and contrast, I don't want to be annoying but one last question, you said you would need alot of channels of audio conversions to make said mixer work, since said mixer don't have firewire or usb for conversion what would you use?
Steenamaroo
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That's what the echo audio fire does in my example.
That particular one has 12 input channels at line level, and connects to PC/MAC via firewire.
It handles analog to digital audio conversion, and digital audio to data conversion.
To be picky, You wouldn't need multi channel conversion to 'make it work'....
You'd need multi channel conversion to be able to use the mixer for multiple simultaneous recordings.
You can use a mixer to record several channels down into a stereo mix. You'd use a 2 channel audio interface here, but of course you won't be able to manipulate individual tracks after you've recorded.
That particular one has 12 input channels at line level, and connects to PC/MAC via firewire.
It handles analog to digital audio conversion, and digital audio to data conversion.
To be picky, You wouldn't need multi channel conversion to 'make it work'....
You'd need multi channel conversion to be able to use the mixer for multiple simultaneous recordings.
You can use a mixer to record several channels down into a stereo mix. You'd use a 2 channel audio interface here, but of course you won't be able to manipulate individual tracks after you've recorded.
MissingDR.King
New member
perfect,
illumination
hierbas al vapor B}'
17 preamps. there is a talkback input. 
they are pretty clean, don't really have much coloration.
they are pretty clean, don't really have much coloration.
witzendoz
Senior Member
The Presonus Live mixer has 16 mic inputs, I understand it can record via fire wire, every mic input, every aux send, every effects send, the sub groups out and the stereo out, all to different tracks. You can also put all these tracks back through the mixer to mix down the song. The mixer also has eq, compression, gates, effects, etc etc, on every channel. I reckon it would make a good home studio set up for someone that wanted to have hands on mixing with software recording. You won't need any other interface or mic pres.
alan.
alan.
Seidy
New member
Sorry about stealing the thread, but am I right, that Studiolive doesn't have motorized faders? If that's so then for me it would be a deal breaker.
Steenamaroo
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From what I can see, it does not.
I think Bobbsy mentioned that too....definite deal breaker for me too.
I think Bobbsy mentioned that too....definite deal breaker for me too.
guitarplayr82
Well-known member
Nope, no motorized faders. I often mix on one at a local club for small shows and open mics. I can answer any questions you have about it...
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
No motorised faders--and it was a total deal breaker for me for the sort of live stuff I do in theatres.
The lack of motorised faders also means that it could never work as a control surface--the same systems used for the motorisation would also be needed to use the faders to control other ones (if you see what I mean).
The lack of motorised faders also means that it could never work as a control surface--the same systems used for the motorisation would also be needed to use the faders to control other ones (if you see what I mean).
illumination
hierbas al vapor B}'
Roland V-Mixer, dude. That's where it's at. Quite a hike in price (10k), but the sw, interface, motorized faders and recall is SILKY SMOOTH! More for live applications, but I don't see how it couldn't be used in a studio setting. You can also connect that to the M-48 (which is damn expensive per unit but INCREDIBLY useful) And the digital snake???? Holy SHYT. 40 channels @ 24bit/96k thru a cat5e cable.
The PreSonus has its limitations, but its an incredible piece of technolowee. I think it caps at 24bit/48k? The FAT channel is bloody foken nice, and so are all of the fx. decent (plenty for most apps) routing options. the 16.4.2 has 17 inputs including the TB mic. I think you can record the 17th input as well, but you don't have the fat channel options. No motorized faders, as you could expect from a $2k piece of gear. (cost of ~2 channels of Flying Faders lol)
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
When I had a look at the Studiolive I was helping out a mate who wanted to make the jump to digital--always fun to spend somebody else's money!
I made the move to digital about 7 years ago and got a Yamaha DM1000 which is still going strong (well, except for a couple of faders that were damaged when I dropped a heavy monitor on them--hardly Yammy's fault). It's 48 channels (as I have it equipped) in a 19 inch wide box I can carry myself.
If I was buying again, I don't know which way I'd go as there are tons of really nice digital mixers out there. Digico, Soundcraft, Midas and Allen and Heath would all be in the running--and maybe even a Behringer x32 nowadays.
Digital mixers have certainly come a long way in the past decade!
I made the move to digital about 7 years ago and got a Yamaha DM1000 which is still going strong (well, except for a couple of faders that were damaged when I dropped a heavy monitor on them--hardly Yammy's fault). It's 48 channels (as I have it equipped) in a 19 inch wide box I can carry myself.
If I was buying again, I don't know which way I'd go as there are tons of really nice digital mixers out there. Digico, Soundcraft, Midas and Allen and Heath would all be in the running--and maybe even a Behringer x32 nowadays.
Digital mixers have certainly come a long way in the past decade!
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