DMB Crash Album Best Mix Ever?

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I was just listening to this album and it still astounds me to this day. I'd have to say its the most beautiful mix of so many instruments that I've ever heard. A place I will always aspire to be. Thoughts? If you don't agree then your name is most likely Sofonda Cox ;)
 
haha. i can't stand listening to dave mathews long enough to critique the mix.

my favorite mixes are all from the 70s. i love anything by steely dan, neil young, and of course the beatles. all of those had a lot going on, but the mix is really clean and everything sits together perfectly. i wouldn't mix exactly the same because drums tended to be buried in the 70s, but the sound is just amazing to me.
 
I don't really like many mixes today. However, I do like Mumford and Sons "Sigh No More." That album was very well done.

I haven't heard that album by DMB. It's funny because they came from the town I live in. I must be the only inhabitant that doesn't like them lol.
 
Well they damn right perdy ones for sure. Well crafted, pristine comes to mind.
Yeah Steely Dan/Roger Nichols
 
CrowsofFritz said:
I don't really like many mixes today. However, I do like Mumford and Sons "Sigh No More." That album was very well done.
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Yeah, that is a also a fantastic work of craftsmanship. U guys should all check out the Crash album even if your not into DMB. It's really the only album from them that I listen to based on the production and musicianship.
 
I have that album, but I haven't listened to it much since I got to college and realized that D-bags love DMB. (That's not to say that loving DMB makes you a D-bag, just that if you are one, you probably like them.)

Also because I realized that I only like about half the songs.

Two Step is pretty amazing though.
 
I'd agree that the Crash album is pretty damn fine. I think, off the top of my head, track 6 always amazed me sonically for sure.

I kinda feel slightly embarassed for what I'm about to say as well. I only own the Greatest Hits album, and can't speak for their catalogue, but Tears for Fears hits album has always impressed me. I've always had a soft spot for its detail and space. There...I said it. Call me crazy....dunno. "Advice for the Young at Heart", listen, then judge! :)
 
aaronmcoleman said:
haha. i can't stand listening to dave mathews long enough to critique the mix.
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Yeah...the guy obviously has talent, and lots of folks like him...but I could never figure out what the big draw was about. His stuff all sounds the same to me.

My day gig involves me with a huge theatre, and DMB was there, I could walk in for free and see the show...I stuck my head in the doors, listened for about 1 minute and yup, sounds all the same to me...and I walked back out. :D

Nothing wrong if you like DMB...I just never figured out the attraction.
 
miroslav said:
Nothing wrong if you like DMB...I just never figured out the attraction.
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Lol. I can appreciate that, but does it not surprse you even more that Neil Young and Rush have such a huge following? THAT, I don't get.
 
Shiny Rhino said:
t Neil Young and Rush have such a huge following? THAT, I don't get.
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I can see why people like RUSH. I'm not a fan, but there's no arguing there's musical talent there.

Neil Young???? I still think him and Edith Bunker are the same person. Listen closely, you'll see.
 
I can see why people like RUSH. I'm not a fan, but there's no arguing there's musical talent there.
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Tons of it. Too bad Geddy Lee's offsets it with his god awful vocal stylings... DMB has some serious musical talent as well though. Carter Beauford on drums....crazy good. And Dave riffs on that acoustic pretty uniquely. They don't do a whole lot for me, but I get the draw.
 
There are two types of people in this world...people who love Rush and people who want to shoot themselves in the face when they hear the cheese that is Rush music, the juvenile lyrics and Geddy Lee's voice which is reminiscent of nails on a chalk board. I of course side with the former ;)
 
Shiny Rhino said:
Lol. I can appreciate that, but does it not surprse you even more that Neil Young and Rush have such a huge following? THAT, I don't get.
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Well...just to give you a real chuckle...
I can't stand listening to Rush....though I think they are all superior musicians...
...but I do like Neil Young a lot, his music may be raw/unpolished at times, but I think it hits much deeper emotionally/spiritually than anything from DMB or Rush. :)

Some of it has to do with tones.

Geddy Lee's voice to me is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard...yet Neil Young's voice, as out of tune as it can be at times, seems to work for me, and what I really dig about Neil is his guitar tones and the fact that he just beats on it, yet manages to hit the mark emotionally. Same reason I really like Jimmy Page's guitar work...sometimes sloppy, but good tone and great emotion.
 
Geddy Lee's voice to me is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard...yet Neil Young's voice, as out of tune as it can be at times, seems to work for me
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At the end of the day, this is what it boils down to. Somehow the stuff that really works for some people, can elicit a completely different response from others. Music in a nutshell.
 
For really great mixes check out Quadrophenia by the Who or Two Against Nature by Steely Dan.

I'm in the "can't listen to an entire DMB album" camp so I can't comment on the mix-worthiness of Crash.
 
miroslav said:
Well...just to give you a real chuckle...
I can't stand listening to Rush....though I think they are all superior musicians...
...but I do like Neil Young a lot, his music may be raw/unpolished at times, but I think it hits much deeper emotionally/spiritually than anything from DMB or Rush. :)

Some of it has to do with tones.

Geddy Lee's voice to me is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard...yet Neil Young's voice, as out of tune as it can be at times, seems to work for me, and what I really dig about Neil is his guitar tones and the fact that he just beats on it, yet manages to hit the mark emotionally. Same reason I really like Jimmy Page's guitar work...sometimes sloppy, but good tone and great emotion.
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yeah, same thing...I love neil young, but could never get into RUSH.

it's kinda interesting that most of the great albums listed were from the 70s. there's something about the way they mixed then. some 60s stuff is still not the greatest, and full of weird stereo mixes. 80s stuff, well, the whole decade was just a little off. there is some 90s stuff i think is great too like Siamese dream. most modern mixes are too "hot". strange, it seems as far as sound, there was a peak in the 70s.
 
aaronmcoleman said:
it's kinda interesting that most of the great albums listed were from the 70s. there's something about the way they mixed then. some 60s stuff is still not the greatest, and full of weird stereo mixes......


.....most modern mixes are too "hot". strange, it seems as far as sound, there was a peak in the 70s.
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Not to turn this thread into a loudness ware debate...but while I get the whole need for everyone wanting "competitive loudness"...many just don't understand or want to accept how much of a bad listening effect it has on the ears in many cases.
I'm not just talking about listening loudly (though that too can be bad over time)...it's the way many mixes end up sounding so hyped/forward/edgy in their effort to be "competitively loud"....that it's very grating on the ears, where the stuff done back on the '70s wasn't subjected to that type of extreme processing.

Take an older album and crank it up loud....then take some of the current "nuked" albums, and dial in the same loudness. I can bet the former will still sound good and be relatively easy to listen to in it's entirety at the loud setting, while the "nuked" one will start be much more irritating after a few minutes.
I mean...even when you turn those "nuked" albums down..they STILL should hyped/edgy...which is what makes them tiresome to listen to for longer periods.
 
Well I am a huge DMB fan. I relate to the lyrics, the acoustic guitar/jam band and freaking killer drums. #41 is probably my all-time favorite and the album Dave & Tim Reynolds: Live at Luther College is awesome.

So yeah, I would agree that Crash is very well mixed.

I'm also a huge fan of 70's folk, too. Simon & Garfunkel, James Taylor, Bob Dylan. Now that's music. :)
 
I can't stand dave mathews, and always thought his guitar sounded DI and weird, maybe the DI guitar thing was just the songs I heard, but it always sounded weird to me.

But I do love James Taylor, Bob Dylan, and Simon & Garfunkel. I learned to play guitar with their songs.
 
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