How can I make these vocals better?

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I'm trying to make a good song but I am not a good singer and I don't have a lot of singing experience.

Maybe you can listen to it and make some suggestions on the vocals...
Anything - technique, style, timing, delivery, intonation, performance, etc. etc. -

I seem to be able to get the instruments to sound decent but my skills with the vocals are not as good.
I think this could be a great song but I think the vocals are holding it back.

ALSO: I'm not fishing for compliments or looking for validation or anything, I really want to make it sound better and I don't think the vox are where they need to be.
If you have any suggestions as to how it might sound better please let me know...

 
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Well it's pitchy in some areas. But it sort of suits the style you're playing. Your voice sounds very unique. The energy is definitely there.
 
CrowsofFritz said:
Well it's pitchy in some areas. But it sort of suits the style you're playing. Your voice sounds very unique. The energy is definitely there.
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unique like I should find another singer unique? :) I can probably work out the pitchy parts... its more of an overall feeling of dread I'm trying to deal with
 
arcadeko said:
unique like I should find another singer unique? :) I can probably work out the pitchy parts... its more of an overall feeling of dread I'm trying to deal with
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No, unique as in a certain tone. I think it really suits the style you're playing. haha, I was waiting for a measure of the vocals to be distorted... I have no idea why...

lol. If somebody is bad, I tell them. I don't sugar coat things.
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with your voice or your recording of it. It's a little pitchy at times, but not bad. I've never stopped one of your tunes before the end because of it. That should mean something. :D

I think you still have a ways to go to blend the vocals with the other tracks. Sometimes they sit on top of everything else. Sometimes the bgv's are louder than the lead vox.

Hmm, i wonder how this song would sound with only one guitar track....
 
In the parts right before you say "my nightmare is a waking dream" I think it'd be cool if the vox were a bit more loose and not so tight on the beat :) Other than that, pretty much what Chili said! Fun tune though!
 
CrowsofFritz said:
No, unique as in a certain tone. I think it really suits the style you're playing. haha, I was waiting for a measure of the vocals to be distorted... I have no idea why...
lol. If somebody is bad, I tell them. I don't sugar coat things.
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Thanks CoF - if there is anything that you hear and think - that part sounds a little weird, or that's kinda off - that would be super helpful.

Chili said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your voice or your recording of it. It's a little pitchy at times, but not bad. I've never stopped one of your tunes before the end because of it. That should mean something. :D I think you still have a ways to go to blend the vocals with the other tracks. Sometimes they sit on top of everything else. Sometimes the bgv's are louder than the lead vox. Hmm, i wonder how this song would sound with only one guitar track....
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Thanks Chili - It does mean something :) means it's not so bad you have to turn it off lol :D I totally agree with the mixing thing - I kinda stopped mixing where I was because I felt like I just wasnt singing the song as well as it should be sung to make it a great song... I wanted to get a great vocal track before I spent too much time mixing it. But maybe I should mix it better so that part isn't distracting from identifying overall vox issues. (and I will give it a try with just a single gtr, just for you :) )

guitaristic said:
In the parts right before you say "my nightmare is a waking dream" I think it'd be cool if the vox were a bit more loose and not so tight on the beat :) Other than that, pretty much what Chili said! Fun tune though!
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I totally agree, for some reason I have a really really hard time disconnecting from the music - I think I listen to it too much and since I played it all it's kind of forcing my brain into that structure - I think that's one of my main problems!!! Actually this is super helpful G - it's like I'm singing it as if I would play the guitar to it or something - I need to be able to break away from that so I can add something new with the vocal melody that complements the song instead of just being forced into the rigid beat structure!

So how the hell do I turn by brain off and do that???? - G you want me to send you the track w/o vox and you can sing it once and maybe give me some ideas?

AndrewGadouas said:
sounds different, but I like different
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Thanks Andrew - I'm seriously not looking for compliments or validation or anything, I just want to make it sound better and I don't think the vox are where they need to be. If you have any suggestions as to how it might sound better I would love to hear them!
 
Here are all the points that sound pitchy.

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 0:40 - 0:48

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 1:30 - 1:40

The note held out on the backing vox at 1:45

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 2:20 - 2:30

The note held out on 2:36

The main vox sounds fine it seems. Unless it's contributing to the wrong notes during the "woah oh's"

To me, it seems the "woah oh's" are a little too up front. How many tracks are there singing at those points?
 
CrowsofFritz said:
Here are all the points that sound pitchy.

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 0:40 - 0:48

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 1:30 - 1:40

The note held out on the backing vox at 1:45

The "woah oh oh oh's" at 2:20 - 2:30

The note held out on 2:36

The main vox sounds fine it seems. Unless it's contributing to the wrong notes during the "woah oh's"

To me, it seems the "woah oh's" are a little too up front. How many tracks are there singing at those points?
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thanks man! I'm gonna go through those now -

I think there are a lot of tracks going there, like 3 doubled tracks in addition to the main vocal line... so 6 tracks! yeah thats too many... I kept a bunch from previous takes, I will delete some of those and do a little remixing.

Thanks man!
 
Sounds a bit like Dave Mustaine to me - I would get the vocals back in the mix a bit and I think that will make a world of difference. Your voice has character, which makes it perfectly listenable despite any pitch issues. Good work.
 
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