Trying to decide between M-Audio 1010LT, OR Tascam US800????

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Hi all, I have been reading Home Recording forums for sometime, and decided to join up. I have a question for any of the experienced (with these products) users.

I have both, but I have neither installed as I do not know which one to go for...I will sell one of them off, but it is so hard to decide. I was thinking if I kept the 1010 I could buy the Hosa MHB360 Patch Bay to go with it as those cables would get annoying, but then I think the US800 already has the hardware interface in it....but then there is the issue of near zero latency on the PCI 1010, and NO extraneous noises that are heard using USB, and need tweaking to get rid of, and even then about 10ms is about the best latency the US800 can deliver....

Anyway some advice would be appreciated, and yes opinion is welcomed as well... My system is W7 64bit 8gig ram AMD +3 Quad core 7200 1tb hd

Thanks
 
c'mon guys anything will do...just some tips...I am going to reformat the system so I need to decided which one members here think is the better option...usually I would not even bother asking but I am so 50/50 on this and I DON"T want to use both..
 
I owned a 1010LT. The breakout cables weren't a huge problem. The driver was a little buggy (WinXP) but perhaps (unlikely) M-Audio has improved it. The pres could drive a Shure SM7B which is more then my Mackie mixer could do. All in all I was reasonably happy given it's price point. It's pres are adequate but I've been told (I'm not enough of a gearhead to know) that it's D/A converter is poor. It's a budget product and rather long in the tooth now.
 
Cool, thanks wheelma...that's a start...good to get something from one who has actually used it....I think I may be tending toward the US800 as I believe it is one of the few MIDI devices that will work as a CoreMidi one on the iPad 2, which I own, but have not done much music work with...but I AM seriously looking at it for field work...the us800 would suit that very well I think....

Again, thanks for your view.
 
okly dokly, 108 people have had a look and only one opinion...neither of these interfaces must be much good, if no-one else has used them or knows about them...I guess the silence says it all...

Oh well, I will just resort to a coin-toss I think..

Cheers all
 
I would hang on to the tascam if I were you. I think the breakout cables are the stupidist ideas ever and they CAN get interference and be noisy. Not to mention going the usb route opens alot of doors where a pci card is more or less permanent. When I made the switch from a pci card to usb I wasn't happy about the latency but do this turn the tv on in the bedroom on and walk to the end of your hall way and tell me 10ms of latency is THAT big of a deal. I'd get rid of the M-audio while there is still a market for it. The only thing I miss about my old card (emu 1212m) was the adat in but I don't think the m-audio has that. I don't own either of these but I do own the us-1800 and despite the fact that it was cheaper than my old setup overall it performed better.
 
Thanks guitared2...What you say makes a lot of sense..........the M-Audio does have spdif and word clock in and outs, but I am not that advanced in the whole recording thing.....and thanks also for the info re the cabling and interference...I must admit I wondered about that myself...

Yep I think I will stick with the Tascam....looking better all the time :-)

Cheers
 
I've got the Tascam (just for a week) and like it. Don't know the other unit.
 
Sell both and buy the Tascam 1800 (or keep the 800 if that is sufficient for your needs)
 
Thanks jimms69y and arcadeko...only problem is, afaik, the Tascam 1800 does NOT work with the iPad 2, under CoreMidi.....But please, if my info on that is incorrect tell me and I WILL seriously consider your 1800 recommendation....
 
miden said:
Thanks jimms69y and arcadeko...only problem is, afaik, the Tascam 1800 does NOT work with the iPad 2, under CoreMidi.....But please, if my info on that is incorrect tell me and I WILL seriously consider your 1800 recommendation....
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That is probably a question for Tascam support. I dunno, I just use a simple USB-to-MIDI cable on Vista. Works like a charm.
 
I do not know either, but would seem strange that a newer model would be less likely to do what you are asking. This coming from a guy who has no idea what 'CoreMidi' or even why the hell anyone would use an iPad 2 for recording. I am simple folk. Mic-preamp-interface-DAW-magic. Or at least hope for the magic from the performer anyway. :D
 
miden said:
My system is W7 64bit 8gig ram AMD +3 Quad core 7200 1tb hd
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miden said:
the Tascam 1800 does NOT work with the iPad 2, under CoreMidi.....
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What are you using MIDI for? And what are you hooking this interface up to? First you said W7, but it needs to be compatible with some iPad MIDI standard?

The Tascam is just a MIDI pass through anyway isn't it?
 
Sorry guys...okay to clarify....CoreMidi is the midi protocol added to the Ipad2 via iOS5...It allows automatic connection of a midi device to an iPad via the iPad connector using a special USB to Apple dongle/adaptor. Essentially it is the same as what works on the Apple Mac Os's....This means as long as the device meets the standard midi protocols, you can use it to record and play midi data from the ipad, not to mention audio.

For example with an app called Multi-Track DAW Audio, I can actually record up to 8 discrete audio tracks simultaneously on an iPad2 for later transfer back to my PC for further editing/processing in Sonar X1 (in my case)....

Maybe you guys should Google CoreMidi and it's relationship to using an iPad at remote locations and on gigs!! I say that ONLY because the info on the web, is going to be far better than I EVER could explain...here is one that springs to mind try iosmusician.com/p/list-of-app-lists (add the .html) as I am under 10 posts so cannot post a URL

I bought 2 of teh M-Audio 1010's as one is critical to a new VST, VSTi and audio production/Live gigging rack I am collaborating on (think Muse Receptor on steroids). I WAS goin to also run the second one on my DAW PC, but then I started having second thoughts about it as I already owned the Tascam US800...But issues with the US800 (no on/off switch - having to ensure it was powered off when starting windows - glitchy MIDI protocol - midi latency - and a general feeling that Tascam really were not that interested in it anymore, meant I was seriously considering replacing it with the 1010LT...BUT thanks to the advice here, I changed my mind and I am sticking with the 800 and I will try and tweak out the issues.

That plus the fact I remembered I needed it for the iPad, and I thought better of running two different systems....and well...there you have it

I checked the US1800, and it is a GREAT bit of gear, but too big as it would require a rack box of some sort... Oh and the US800 is a full MIDI interface, in/out

I HOPE that explains it a bit better....
 
Just a note to your statement; the US800 has been discontinued. I just tested it myself, and I understand your issues with the need to power it on after Windows loads. Obviously, development for a new driver for W7 was aborted, due to the release of newer products. The unit is kind of a dinosaur in the Tascam line. I would definitely do some research as to the compatibility of the 1800 with your needs before purchasing. The size of the 800 is nice for portability, though I am not so sure I would want to move gear around that wasn't protected in a rack case myself. Hell, one beer in hand, girl loses top, head turns, beer spills, interface gone.......
 
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