I also say bollocks to the "if you can't play to click, then drums won't help". Hearing a kit instead of *ping click click click ping click click click* gets you so much more into the feel of it actually being a song.
That may be true. Actually, I think it is true. But it misses the point. If you can't play to *ping click click click*, it makes no sense that you'll be able to do it to *boof boof pap pap*. They are exactly the same in every way but sound and the timing reference, be it metronome, clock, click or drum machine is all about the time,
not the sound.
Bullshit. It's exactly the job of a drummer to do this. Whilst it is the job of the bassist to keep rhythm
Yes and no. It is everybody's job in a playing situation to keep time. But the human ear responds to sonic rigidity, ie things that get hit to produce beat. So we notice drums and percussion roles in time keeping in a way that we wouldn't a guitar, violin or even bass. Non hit instruments can afford to be a little fluid because things like notes can slide, slur or be bent. But they still have to keep time.
The bass is an interesting one because it fulfils more roles in music than any other, I think. What it does could be covered by other instruments, yet it's all in one versatility makes it the kingpin.
I was being a sarcastic bastard when I said it.
And how was anyone supposed to deduce this ? The only bit that comes across as sarcasm is the bit about the singer and the guitarist. The rest reads like a serious point of view.
i cant play guitar to a click to save myself.. just doesnt have the feel ! What i like to do is get a drum sample and repeat it for the length of how long im recording.. just a simple drum loop from EZdrummer and copy + paste it, make it the tempo i want then record over it.
Your second statement cancels out your first. If you can do the second, you are already playing to a click. Perhaps it should be said that
the word "click" is simply a catch all word that means any timing reference.
And by the way, a real living human drummer is a timing reference.
It's actually often the annoyance of the click that makes it difficult for people to play to.
I can see that, in that it can be an annoying sound. But that's different from the ability or willingness to play to a click. Either you can or you can't. If you can't, practice till you can. Otherwise it's no longer can't but won't. I can't emphasize enough that this thread is not about the
sound of a click but the
principle and philosophy of a click.
The first question that comes to my mind is how hot are you tracking?
I would think it was not so much a matter of hot tracking, but hot monitoring.