Looking to buy Tascam MIDIizer

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Anyone lookin' to dump their MIDIizer...???
The specific model is MTS-1000
Not the ATS-500
 
snatchman said:
Will a JL Cooper Data Sync work..?
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Can I sync 2 tape machines & hardware sequencer with it?
I'm looking for the functions of the MTS-1000,..if it will do this,..then yes.




MTS-30 - MIDI to FSK translator with Song Position Pointer - Provides MIDI sync for a single tape machine via FSK or SPP, with the tascam acting as the master. The MTS-30 plugs into the the in/out on track 8. Then it has MIDI ports for integration into your MIDI setup. It seems to be no different than any other MIDI/timecode interface. It doesn't utilize the 'Accessory 2' port.

MMC-100 - MIDI Machine Control via Tascam Serial - works in much the same way as the MTS-30 but implements full MMC protocol. Thus the tascam can be the slave or the master. In addition to using track 8 for timecode, the 'Accessory 2' port is used to maintain correct tape speed during playback to maintain sync. If you bought one of these for each deck, and used a MMC-based tranport master (like a sequencer, for example) you could use both decks at the same time.

ATS-500 - Two Machine Serial Synchronizer - This box uses one tascam as a master and one tascam as a slave. It has two 'Accessory 2' ports, one for each tape deck, and a bunch of I/O for the timecode on both machines, plus external timecode inputs (to sync both machines with a video deck or master timecode generator for example). Doesn't have a MIDI interface built in. Keep in mind that you'll only have 14 total tracks, since the timecode uses one track on each machine.

MTS-1000 - MIDIizer: Two Machine Serial Sync w/MIDI - Again, using one machine as master and one as slave in a MIDI environment. This seems to be the ultimate solution to everything. It does everything the ATS-500 does, plus includes MIDI.
 
Those Tascam boxes are rare and expensive. What kind of machines are you wanting to sync?
 
VESSEL2020 said:
Can I sync 2 tape machines & hardware sequencer with it?
I'm looking for the functions of the MTS-1000,..if it will do this,..then yes



MTS-30 - MIDI to FSK translator with Song Position Pointer - Provides MIDI sync for a single tape machine via FSK or SPP, with the tascam acting as the master. The MTS-30 plugs into the the in/out on track 8. Then it has MIDI ports for integration into your MIDI setup. It seems to be no different than any other MIDI/timecode interface. It doesn't utilize the 'Accessory 2' port.

MMC-100 - MIDI Machine Control via Tascam Serial - works in much the same way as the MTS-30 but implements full MMC protocol. Thus the tascam can be the slave or the master. In addition to using track 8 for timecode, the 'Accessory 2' port is used to maintain correct tape speed during playback to maintain sync. If you bought one of these for each deck, and used a MMC-based tranport master (like a sequencer, for example) you could use both decks at the same time.

ATS-500 - Two Machine Serial Synchronizer - This box uses one tascam as a master and one tascam as a slave. It has two 'Accessory 2' ports, one for each tape deck, and a bunch of I/O for the timecode on both machines, plus external timecode inputs (to sync both machines with a video deck or master timecode generator for example). Doesn't have a MIDI interface built in. Keep in mind that you'll only have 14 total tracks, since the timecode uses one track on each machine.

MTS-1000 - MIDIizer: Two Machine Serial Sync w/MIDI - Again, using one machine as master and one as slave in a MIDI environment. This seems to be the ultimate solution to everything. It does everything the ATS-500 does, plus includes MIDI.
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Well, it has smpte and midi ports..Maybe it will..Maybe someone here could verify it.If so, I have one for sale...
 
I don't know about the OP's deck, but the 238 is slaved via the RS-232C serial port. If you're wanting to slave a MIDI sequencer to the tape deck, a cheaper alternative would be:

(1) MOTU MIDI Timepiece - prints SMPTE to a tape track and converts SMPTE to MTC for controlling a MIDI device. The JL Cooper unit probably works about the same way.

(2) Roland MC series sequencer - prints FSK to a tape track and chases it to control other MIDI devices.
 
diggy_dude said:
I don't know about the OP's deck, but the 238 is slaved via the RS-232C serial port. If you're wanting to slave a MIDI sequencer to the tape deck, a cheaper alternative would be:

(1) MOTU MIDI Timepiece - prints SMPTE to a tape track and converts SMPTE to MTC for controlling a MIDI device. The JL Cooper unit probably works about the same way.

(2) Roland MC series sequencer - prints FSK to a tape track and chases it to control other MIDI devices.
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" (1) MOTU MIDI Timepiece - prints SMPTE to a tape track and converts SMPTE to MTC for controlling a MIDI device. The JL Cooper unit probably works about the same way."


Hey Dude..Thanks for the reply..Yeah, I figure the JL Cooper may work like this also..
 
VESSEL2020 said:
Tascam 38 & TSR-8 along with hardware sequencer. (all three sync'd)
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So at least one of the tape decks will have to be slaved to one of the other two devices. Do the 38 and TSR-8 have a D-shaped serial port on them?
 
diggy_dude said:
So at least one of the tape decks will have to be slaved to one of the other two devices. Do the 38 and TSR-8 have a D-shaped serial port on them?
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Sorry,..my internet connection acts up when it's raining,..and it's raining pretty hard here right now.
That's why I wasn't able to answer so quickly. I got cut off last night when I asked the last question.

The TSR-8 does but the 38 doesn't.
 
snatchman said:
Well, it has smpte and midi ports..Maybe it will..Maybe someone here could verify it.If so, I have one for sale...
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Thanks snatchman,...If it can be verified,..I just may grab it from you.
 
It's been a long time since I've done any separate tape sync'ing but if I remember correctly, you'll lose two tracks ( one stripe tone track on each machine) in order to sync'em..
 
snatchman said:
It's been a long time since I've done any separate tape sync'ing but if I remember correctly, you'll lose two tracks ( one stripe tone track on each machine) in order to sync'em..
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Yes my friend,..I'm aware of that. That's not a problem.
Just tryin' to figure a way to sync up all 3 together.
I have backing tracks that I'd like to sync with my sequencer,...but I need both machines sync'd...and I just figured from what I've read, that the MTS-1000 is the be all end all to what I would need. Though, I could be wrong.
 
VESSEL2020 said:
Yes my friend,..I'm aware of that. That's not a problem.
Just tryin' to figure a way to sync up all 3 together.
I have backing tracks that I'd like to sync with my sequencer,...but I need both machines sync'd...and I just figured from what I've read, that the MTS-1000 is the be all end all to what I would need. Though, I could be wrong.
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Well I guess in this case, you'll lose three tracks then..(lol)..Good luck..!
 
You won't lose a track on the sequencer if you slave both decks to it. It should have a dedicated sync track. The big question is, will both decks understand the machine control protocol sent from the sync box?
 
snatchman said:
Well I guess in this case, you'll lose three tracks then..(lol)..Good luck..!
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Thanks,
I tried to find a manual for the JL Cooper Data Sync to see the features of what it can do,..but no luck.
Do you know of a link so I can check the specs for myself?
 
What exactly do you need to know about the MTS-1000? I've got one (for my TSR-8) and have the manual.
 
jjones1700 said:
What exactly do you need to know about the MTS-1000? I've got one (for my TSR-8) and have the manual.
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Thanks for offering to help
What I'd like to do is...
Sync up 2 different recorders (one being TSR-8, and the other a 38 along with a hardware sequencer)
The only thing is...the 38 doesn't have the serial port on it. I'm sure there's a way this can be done?
Would also like to try locking my 2 688's along with my 238 (all have serial port) and a hardware sequencer (midi).
 
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