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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Exactly .
So I was at Sam Ash and the guy ask me if I want to play a Gibson Les Paul
Exactly .
arcadeko
Illuminatius Overlordious
So its a good time to sell my 63 Plymouth Fury?
I am happy with the sound of my Epi LP - especially now that I picked up a HT-DUAL tube pre-amp/distortion box - yum - If I ever want to change anything I will probably just put new pickups in it - and maybe those electronic parts that were mentioned - capacitors or something? I would get someone else to solder it though...
CoolCat
Well-known member
Speaking of tones and sounds...
I'm listening to a band right now , main guitar is a Danelectro reissue, sounds really really good. I expected it to sound really hallow and crappy to be honest....instead it sounds frkn great. the Danelectro shows how much the sound and tone is the p/u.
my 2 cents...
keep the Plymouth until its worth at least $500,000...have patience.
I'm listening to a band right now , main guitar is a Danelectro reissue, sounds really really good. I expected it to sound really hallow and crappy to be honest....instead it sounds frkn great. the Danelectro shows how much the sound and tone is the p/u.
my 2 cents...
keep the Plymouth until its worth at least $500,000...have patience.
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thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
Speaking of tones and sounds...
I'm listening to a band right now , main guitar is a Danelectro reissue, sounds really really good. I expected it to sound really hallow and crappy to be honest....instead it sounds frkn great. the Danelectro shows how much the sound and tone is the p/u.
my 2 cents...
keep the Plymouth until its worth at least $500,000...have patience.
I played one of those at work. They cost like $300 and feel like they're made out of plastic, but I still like 'em. Go figure. As for Epiphone vs Gibson, I can't tell much difference between the current lines. Some of the really nice/expensive Gibsons, particularly the signature ones, sound better, but the general production-line gear coming from both companies sounds pretty much the same to me. And fairly dull, as far as I'm concerned. I have a '70 Gibson "The Paul" that sounds so much nicer than any of their new guitars and it only cost $600 used. I will say, however, that I haven't seen any Gibsons in for repair for a broken headstock, but I have seen quite a few Epiphones, so that would be the main thing steering me away from them.
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
Hmm, about the broken neck. I read somewhere (forget where) that the Epi's were LESS prone to the neck breaking at the headstock than the Gibsons.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
I dunno, just calling it like I see it. We have at least two in the shop right now.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
People are more apt to try a guitar around the back throw with a Epi than a Gibson! 
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
People are more apt to try a guitar around the back throw with a Epi than a Gibson!
Might have something to do with it! Some of the ones in the store have broken, though, likely from someone dropping them off the hanger or knocking over a stand.
aaronmcoleman
The truth is out there!
could it just be a matter of more epis out there to be broken?
aaronmcoleman
The truth is out there!
People are more apt to try a guitar around the back throw with a Epi than a Gibson!
Also, I have tried this with an epi, crashed and burned into the side of the house a couple of times (practicing in the backyard when I was 15), no worse for the wear. Pretty solid.
thebigcheese
"Hi, I'm in Delaware."
Well, I sell recording gear, not guitars, so what do I know?
I'm sure a lot of Epiphones are just fine, I just think you are more likely to have problems with them than a Gibson. Squier has really stepped up their game recently, too, especially the Classic Vibe line. Having said that, the American Deluxe Strat I bought was totally worth it.
CoolCat
Well-known member
arcadeko
Illuminatius Overlordious
Well even if you broke three Epiphones and bought new ones, you are still spending less than 1/2 of a new Gibson
jimistone
long standing member
I like Gibson LP's. The superior quality, tone, playability,and resale value are worth the price difference...and then some IMO. I am talking about the used market of course...I would let someody else take the "drive it off the lot" lick on the guitars depreciation. It's the only time the guitar will go down in value.(if past history in any indication of future returns)
jimistone
long standing member
Well, you can get a used lp studio in the $700-$800 range...even if an epi can be had for $200 thats only $500 difference. If you only kept the guitar 10 years thats a mere $50 a year. If you only played in an hour a day that would be 14 cents an hour...to have the genuine Gibson.
It's a no-brainer for me.
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CoolCat
Well-known member
I've witnessed this. Its cool though, I mean if someone is older and has bucks and wants to spend it....they enjoy collecting and the purchasing, and then it goes into a closet. Like stamp collecting
Its a new phenomena imo.
and they'll make a cheaper line for others....theres so many "lines" or "series" these days.
I saw the Gibson Tribute's were only $859....they look cool. and have the Brand Logo thing of US.
in other words, not all US Gibsons are $3000.
But then is a $1000 Epiphone better than the $859 Gibson?
These high end Epiphones have all the hardware and special AAA woods, the SLASH series comes to mind $999 Epi
....only missing the Logo on the headstock.
But I doubt any collectors want an Epiphone.
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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
What are you: a lawyer or a stock broker?
Probably true, but aren't we (mostly) all musicians here?
CoolCat
Well-known member
the thread was about gear.... is the Gibson worth the extra $2500?
Most musicians I know are a bit of gear-collectors...especially the older aged ones who have money in their 40's to 60's.
It always comes to my mind, the "blindfold test" for issues or debates like this.
If you record some tracks, some with Epi some with Gibson....can you tell?
If you can, then by all means spend the extra $2500.
Maybe some can hear a difference between a $859 US Gibson and a $5500 US Gibson.
The other "underlying" thing is all a mental logo lust. And its for real too, i dont see it as a bad thing, just a real thing people dont like to admit has them hypnotized somehow. I think mentally a person can get just a good a mental-gear high, from a fix of US $859 Gibson as a $5500 US Gibson fix ...as in junkie gear analogy.
but none of this is about tones and pickup flavors.
but yes, I think most musicians I know are gear addicts in a way....they love the stuff.
some collectors who have money dont want a US Corona Fender, because the real ones were made in Fullerton CA....those were the "real magical" ones. The price skyrockets for those.
Did they sound better? nah.....not imo.
Most musicians I know are a bit of gear-collectors...especially the older aged ones who have money in their 40's to 60's.
It always comes to my mind, the "blindfold test" for issues or debates like this.
If you record some tracks, some with Epi some with Gibson....can you tell?
If you can, then by all means spend the extra $2500.
Maybe some can hear a difference between a $859 US Gibson and a $5500 US Gibson.
The other "underlying" thing is all a mental logo lust. And its for real too, i dont see it as a bad thing, just a real thing people dont like to admit has them hypnotized somehow. I think mentally a person can get just a good a mental-gear high, from a fix of US $859 Gibson as a $5500 US Gibson fix ...as in junkie gear analogy.
but none of this is about tones and pickup flavors.
but yes, I think most musicians I know are gear addicts in a way....they love the stuff.
some collectors who have money dont want a US Corona Fender, because the real ones were made in Fullerton CA....those were the "real magical" ones. The price skyrockets for those.
Did they sound better? nah.....not imo.