Speaker/monitor stands

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Hi, I'm looking for a pair of speaker stands to isolate my krk rp5 g2's off my desk... this is the setup as shown:

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The subwoofers are about 8' past the end of the table. I am thinking of getting any of the following stands:

Solid Hardwood Ebony FGH Series 8" Speaker Stands


SANUS SYSTEMS BF-31B Wood Speaker Stands


Musician's Gear SMS-6000 Monitor Stand


Would they all work fairly well for minimizing the reflections off my desk (based on material or structure)? I'm leaning towards the 8' stands for the convenience and better security for my monitors, but not sure if they will sound better being only so far off the desk. Also, would anyone recommend a better placement? (the hood on the desk makes it hard...)

I will probably also be purchasing mopads for decoupling.
 
musixgood said:
Hi, I'm looking for a pair of speaker stands to isolate my krk rp5 g2's off my desk... this is the setup as shown:

img1346h.jpg


img1347g.jpg


The subwoofers are about 8' past the end of the table. I am thinking of getting any of the following stands:

Solid Hardwood Ebony FGH Series 8" Speaker Stands


SANUS SYSTEMS BF-31B Wood Speaker Stands


Musician's Gear SMS-6000 Monitor Stand


Would they all work fairly well for minimizing the reflections off my desk (based on material or structure)? I'm leaning towards the 8' stands for the convenience and better security for my monitors, but not sure if they will sound better being only so far off the desk. Also, would anyone recommend a better placement? (the hood on the desk makes it hard...)

I will probably also be purchasing mopads for decoupling.
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I see! Yeah get your desk pulled out from the wall and get those speakers up on stands would be most ideal!
 
You should look into adjustable stands so you can get the monitors at the proper height. I would pull the desk away from the wall as moresound said and put the stands off to the sides of the desk with at least three feet between each monitor and the nearest wall.
 
i see i see... just a quick fyi i forgot to mention the drawers supporting each monitor are separate from the desk so i can just switch those out for new stands. and are we not recommending desk stands b/c of more reflections?
 
Right one can see that in the picture move them away.
 
You can also use mopads to angle the speakers and/or to keep them from shaking any desks / tables and stuff that they're in contact with. Or at least lessen the severity. Some wall mounts if space is an issue. Stands are cool too if you're renting a space and need more temporary-ness. On the cheap, a couple of stools, if space isn't the kicker.

For on the desk, I get those bamboo kitchen square type things at target, or where ever. Kind of a mini book shelf for things like headphone adapters, media cards, and spare batteries. Cables and stuff too. Those kitchen plate things too if you double / tripple them up to bear the weight. Old phone books and other options to adjust height and stuff.

Something like this:

ClosetMaid-Modular-Drawer

What I have is similar to this:

Open-Cube

But for flour and stuff. So mine has a plastic insert and a lid. The plastic insert lets me take everything out of the thing without having to actually move the cube-ish thing. Great for media card readers and usb cables and headphone adapters and other things. Maybe not ideal for monitors as it probably creates a sound chamber of sorts. For my LCD monitor, I have two ammo boxes (wood) with a plank of wood on top. Keeps a cavity in there for the headphone preamp, telephone, breakout box, and other things you need access to and wouldn't otherwise have the desk real-estate to access. Plus if you get a little too ambitious it keeps the ceiling tile from falling directly into your, err... pepsi. ;)
 
Aha?

What about this setup:

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tweeters are about 16" apart... perfect for my ear level although narrow and bass seems to go manic under that darn hood (decouplers please....)

I appreciate the feedback thus far, and overall still unsure especially about dropping the money for $70 for adjustable stands... im thinking the $30 would work just as well for me in all honesty. I do have plenty of space off both ends of the desk so that isn't an issue. I was leaning towards ~8" stands to place on the desk for now, that way when I return home from college I can just plop them right on my desk at home, whereas separate stands I would have to place off the ends of the desk, keeping the monitors rather far apart.

Eh. Monitors are just getting a tad annoying right now lol. Although I'm probably making this harder for myself than it should be :(
 
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musixgood said:
... are we not recommending desk stands b/c of more reflections?
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The reason I'm not recommending desk stands is that their height isn't usually adjustable. You need to be able to get them perfectly aligned with your ears when you're seated at the console.
 
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Is that your current setup???

I might be wrong, but don't you want the tweeters FURTHER out than the larger cones? Since we're not that directionally perceptive per say on the lower frequencies. I think the main issue with that setup, aside from the close proximity lip on that shelf, is the windows right behind it. Windows are strong reflectors. aka mega-comb filtering woes in that particular location. And for those lower frequencies that are more prone to that effect.

Stands are probably the better option. I'm just not one that's comfortable with putting something that heavy on something that narrow and top heavy. Certainly not if you have expensive ones in the $300+ PER monitor range.
 
At very least I would place a 4'-5' piece of 3/4" pine across top of upper desk and spread those puppies out!
 
While I like the look of the stands diggy_dug recommended, I might be concerned with what appears to be the small size of the top plate, especially if you have a lot of traffic in your room where someone might bump into them or lean on them or whatever.

One important note, monitors are generally designed to be in one specific position, either standing up or laying down. I believe your monitors are designed to be used in the standing up position, and laying them on their sides may impair their performance.
 
i did see these... but was very skeptical about the 4x4 in. square tops for holding my krk 5's. just maybe.

@shadow: i'll try flipping them, major advantage of that setup though was that the tweeters were right at sitting-up ear level. major disadvantage being the bloated bass, probably bleeding through the hood. i'm aware of the window reflection, i have drapes so when i need to mix, i will cover them up.
 
musixgood said:
i did see these... but was very skeptical about the 4x4 in. square tops for holding my krk 5's. just maybe.

@shadow: i'll try flipping them, major advantage of that setup though was that the tweeters were right at sitting-up ear level. major disadvantage being the bloated bass, probably bleeding through the hood. i'm aware of the window reflection, i have drapes so when i need to mix, i will cover them up.
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Which is an advantage of those drawer things I linked earlier. 12"x12"x4" and stackable so two of them get's you 8" vertical or any multiple of 4".

You need something more substantial than what passes for drapes these days. Something with some absorption properties being that close to the windows. Or something to angle the reflection so it's not 100% back at you or the monitors. With that kind of proximity you might not notice any difference if you point them at the windows or directly at you. Or not... In a studio environment they're supposed to about 1/3rd of the way between walls. i.e. middle of the room-ish.

Some auralex mopads can angle them down-ish, or up-ish and that might help with reflections or elevation issues. When I had some actual monitors, I had some of those mopads and that made a difference IMO. Down at chest or keyboard level and angled up to hit me in the face. But I never really used them enough and they took up too much real-estate, so I got rid of them.

Auralex-MoPad-Monitor-Isolation-Pads
 
bdenton said:
While I like the look of the stands diggy_dug recommended, I might be concerned with what appears to be the small size of the top plate, especially if you have a lot of traffic in your room where someone might bump into them or lean on them or whatever.
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The top plate has four screw holes in it, suggesting some further means must be used to secure the speakers to the stand. I don't want to drill holes in my speakers for that. I doubt I'd be able to find a mounting bracket to match speakers that old either. I've thought about getting four more of the rubber feet for each stand to grip the bottom of the speaker and isolate it from the stand. Or cutting a piece of plywood and rubber mat to mount to the top plate and set the speaker on. What would you recommend?
 
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