Horse With No Name

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The well-known America song, Horse With No Name was the first song I recorded on a new 12-string guitar that was given to me as a present a few years ago. The rhythm guitar and lead guitar solo are both 12-string guitar.

I used to think it was one of my best recordings but learning from you guys kinda shredded that idea...

I remixed the song tonight because when I listened to my first recording of it last night, it really sounded bad. I am under no illusion that it will sound great now but I am posting the remix here for an idea that I had for the bass guitar - to record the bass as a mono track. I wondered about the requirement for a stereo bass track and would value your opinion.

Horse With No Name
 
I'd put a little more mid-bass in the rhythm guitar track. Just a touch around maybe 300 to give it some depth and then cut away a bit from the bass at that same frequency. Not much though or it would risk sounding muddy. The vocals sound perfect in my opinion. As for stereo bass, for something this open it may work. I have used both. For me it's one of those per project things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
 
Hi Murders... yes, the guitar was from my original recording some years ago and was recorded though a mixer using the built-in piezo pups, which I have stopped doing now. I have a range of new mics ... I will record the guitar again and see what tonal qualities I can capture. Thank you for the comment on the vocals. First time I have done a 3-part harmony.
 
The vocals are right on - clear and on top of the mix. For me- the lead part could come up and be a little drier. Excellent performance! I'm a mono bass kind of guy so I'm not sure how a stereo would sound.
 
RAMI said:
Am I the only one getting a 2 second clip and nothing else?
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You want more than 2 seconds??? Thats a bit extravagant isnt it? :)
Sorry Rami, just kiddin... it should be a 3:45
 
GuitarLegend said:
You want more than 2 seconds??? Thats a bit extravagant isnt it? :)
Sorry Rami, just kiddin... it should be a 3:45
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Weird. I'll wait for others to chime in. I'm still getting just a quick 2 second clip. Anyone else?
 
Right-clicking and "save target as" doesn't give you any joy?
 
GuitarLegend said:
Right-clicking and "save target as" doesn't give you any joy?
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OK great. That worked. There's obviously something wrong on my end, not yours.

I've always loved this tune, and your vocals are very cool. I like this a lot. Lead vocals aand harmonies are perfect. I think the drums can come up a bit, but I'm a drummer so take that for what it's worth.

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I've never heard of anyone recording bass in stereo. Same with any mono instrument. In fact, I'm wondering how you even manage to record bass in stereo.Rrecording it onto a "stereo track" doesn't make it stereo, it just makes it mono, but on 2 tracks.
 
Thanks for the compliment, I have never thought of myself as having cool vocals before, I thought I would get shot down in flames for that. I appreciate the comments.

RAMI said:
I've never heard of anyone recording bass in stereo. Same with any mono instrument. In fact, I'm wondering how you even manage to record bass in stereo.Rrecording it onto a "stereo track" doesn't make it stereo, it just makes it mono, but on 2 tracks.
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You verbalized what I had often thought about many instruments that have identical left and right tracks and what purpose there could be for that. It seems like a waste of disk space and processing time. I am glad I asked the question now...
 
GuitarLegend said:
identical left and right tracks
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That's actually the definition of MONO. A mono track doesn't come out of some magic, invisible "middle speaker". A mono track panned in the middle is a track that is coming out equally and identically from both speakers.
 
I know there is no magical middle speaker. I have always known that the mono instrument is played from the computer monitor speaker that I didn't know it had... :)
 
I think its great, the things mentioned are good ideas i.e. bring up drums a hair, lower the bottom frequency on the rythem guitar a bit, but their minor IMO. Sounds great! Really enjoyed that, the vocals perfect!
 
Sure you can have stereo bass. The same way that you can have stereo snare or kick drums. Surely you aren't gonna multitrack and pan a bass (suppose you could, doubt it would sound very good) but you can mic a cab in a room and then hang a condenser pair to capture the bass in the room if the room sounds good.
 
Murdersgalore said:
Sure you can have stereo bass. The same way that you can have stereo snare or kick drums. Surely you aren't gonna multitrack and pan a bass (suppose you could, doubt it would sound very good) but you can mic a cab in a room and then hang a condenser pair to capture the bass in the room if the room sounds good.
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No, you're right. I was talking under the assumption that we're talking about taking a single bass signal and trying to make it stereo by recording it onto a stereo track.
 
PDP said:
I think its great, the things mentioned are good ideas i.e. bring up drums a hair, lower the bottom frequency on the rythem guitar a bit, but their minor IMO. Sounds great! Really enjoyed that, the vocals perfect!
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Wow! "Perfect" is a pretty strong word on this forum. I appreciate the compliment more than you know. I did a lot of work on the drums, bring them up a db, down a db... some compression and took it out again... I tried for the best balance I could get. I think that bringing them up a hair might just be a hair too much. I really do want to re-record the guitar again. The first recording was not terribly sophisticated. I know I can improve on that.
 
RAMI said:
No, you're right. I was talking under the assumption that we're talking about taking a single bass signal and trying to make it stereo by recording it onto a stereo track.
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Its a Fender P-Bass that was played through an amp into a mixer and recorded in stereo for reasons I have no excuse for. I knew a lot less than I do now :/
 
Sounds really good! Voice is almost like the original and the harmonies are nice. The only thing to me was the acoustic. It seems to kind of lack brightness. Other than that, nice version.
 
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