Burning Audio CDs

[PDP]

If I export a wav. file at 16/44.1 from Cubase can it burned onto a CD that will play as an audio CD or do I need to convert to another standard, I remember something like "redbook" compatible. What is the latest compatibilty standard?

 

[Waltz Mastering]

If I export a wav. file at 16/44.1 from Cubase can it burned onto a CD that will play as an audio CD

Yes

or do I need to convert to another standard, I remember something like "redbook" compatible. What is the latest compatibility standard?

Burning as a redbook cd is the standard when destined for replication.

 

[PDP]

Thank You always, appreciate the help.

Pete

 

[bouldersoundguy]

If I export a wav. file at 16/44.1 from Cubase can it burned onto a CD that will play as an audio CD or do I need to convert to another standard, I remember something like "redbook" compatible. What is the latest compatibilty standard?

Redbook is the standard for mass produced, "pressed" CDs. It incorporates a number of specifications including 16 bit/44.1kHz audio.

Orangebook is the standard for CD-R, which also incorporates 16/44.1 audio but adapts the Redbook specs to CDs which are made by a laser burning spots on the disc in place of the pits of Redbook.

There are several other variants of Redbook, like CD+Graphics, and most of them have been pretty much unchanged for years.

Redbook, Orangebook etc. are not so much audio formats as they are disc formats. You don't have to convert the audio to anything else to burn a playable disc if it's already 16/44.1, and in many cases the burning software will convert from whatever format the audio is in to 16/44.1, though how well it's done depends on the software in question.

 

[PDP]

Thanks great info!

 

[soundchaser59]

Redbook is the standard for mass produced, "pressed" CDs. It incorporates a number of specifications including 16 bit/44.1kHz audio.

Orangebook is the standard for CD-R, which also incorporates 16/44.1 audio but adapts the Redbook specs to CDs which are made by a laser burning spots on the disc in place of the pits of Redbook.

So I need to find out which method the replication house is using before I burn the "master" that I'm going to send them? I dont know what Wavelab Essential does, maybe I should invest in something better?

 

[Chili]

So I need to find out which method the replication house is using before I burn the "master" that I'm going to send them? I dont know what Wavelab Essential does, maybe I should invest in something better?

No, you would be fine with WLE. Like BSG said, Orangebook adapts the redbook spec to CDr's. The one thing that WLE doesn't provide which might be required by a replication house is a PQ sheet. It puts the PQ codes on the CD, but doesn't allow you to print them out. Not that I have been able to find anyways.

If you're sending your cd off for replication, ask if they need those codes. Maybe they don't.

I have WLE 6 and I'm not crazy about it. I have a lot of problems with it recognizing my cd burners. If there was a reason not to have WLE, that would be it.

 

[soundchaser59]

I have WLE 6 and I'm not crazy about it. I have a lot of problems with it recognizing my cd burners. If there was a reason not to have WLE, that would be it.

I'm not toally fond of it either, I'm not pleased with anything Steinberg, but WL is the one Steinberg software I've managed to keep running.

If your budget was maybe $100-150 or 199 bucks max max, what would you rather have instead?

 

[Chili]

I'm not toally fond of it either, I'm not pleased with anything Steinberg, but WL is the one Steinberg software I've managed to keep running.

If your budget was maybe $100-150 or 199 bucks max max, what would you rather have instead?

Here's a trial DOWNLOAD of CD Architect. It does support PQ editing and ISRC, but doesn't mention VST effects (that's important to me).

I like everything else about WLE except the cd burning. I can see myself using WLE for everything else but that and then something else for burning. I wonder if there is a free download that encodes PQ and ISRC data. Does Nero do that stuff?

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Here's a trial DOWNLOAD of CD Architect. It does support PQ editing and ISRC, but doesn't mention VST effects (that's important to me).

Why they still don't do the VST thang in Architect is beyond me, unless there is some bad blood between them and Steinberg that keeps them from getting the license.

However, that's really not much of an issue, as Architect does support DX plugs, so all you need is a VST-to-DX wrapper that lets you run your VSTs as if they were DX plugs. That's what I do with all my Sonic Foundry/Sony stuff.

The only hitch with CD Architect is it's only for Wintel platforms. If one is running native Apple, it's not an option.

G.

 

[Chili]

However, that's really not much of an issue, as Architect does support DX plugs, so all you need is a VST-to-DX wrapper that lets you run your VSTs as if they were DX plugs. That's what I do with all my Sonic Foundry/Sony stuff.

G.

Cool, I'll give that a try. I guess a wrapper is available for free somewhere. Which do you use?

I'm so fed up with WLE cd drivers.

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Cool, I'll give that a try. I guess a wrapper is available for free somewhere. Which do you use?

Well, I use something called VST-DX Wrapper from a place called Spin Audio (www.spinaudio.com.) But I just went to their web address to see if they still had it and one of those bogus generic search pages popped up. Either they changed their name or website or got bought out or went out of business, IDK.

They had both a free version, and one that cost just like $20 or something. This was a few years ago. The difference was the free one only allowed one plug at a time but the paid version allowed multiple simultaneous instances.

Now I don't know what to tell you. Last I heard, Cakewalk also had a wrapper, but I know nothing about it or whether it's still out there or not or what other options are out there now. But there's got to be other options than the SpinAudio one.

I'll bet you the Sony support forums have been asked that question a million times. You might want to check there.

G.

 

[Chili]

Well, I use something called VST-DX Wrapper from a place called Spin Audio (www.spinaudio.com.) But I just went to their web address to see if they still had it and one of those bogus generic search pages popped up. Either they changed their name or website or got bought out or went out of business, IDK.

They had both a free version, and one that cost just like $20 or something. This was a few years ago. The difference was the free one only allowed one plug at a time but the paid version allowed multiple simultaneous instances.

Now I don't know what to tell you. Last I heard, Cakewalk also had a wrapper, but I know nothing about it or whether it's still out there or not or what other options are out there now. But there's got to be other options than the SpinAudio one.

I'll bet you the Sony support forums have been asked that question a million times. You might want to check there.

G.

Cool, thanks Glen. I've got a long while before I need to burn cd's again, but I'll keep all this tucked away in some lost brain cell somewhere.

Oh, and about Sony not using VST's, they do use them for their video editing software, so probably not a license issue with Steinberg. I can use my UAD plugs with Sony Vegas, no problem. Don't know why they don't allow it with CD Arch.

Now, back to the regularly scheduled hijacked thread.