Recording Drums with Line 6 POD

[.Tyson Studios.]

I am planning to record drums with a Line 6 Pod UX 2. How could i do that? I would use 4 mics. 1 on the snare, 1 on the bass, and 2 overheads. Are there enough inputs? How would you take all of them and put them on multiple tracks? Or all on one track? I'd be very greatful if you could answer all my questions. Get back to me. thanks.

 

[FunkDaddy]

2 XLR inputs. Seriously, you could do a little research yourself...Google answered that for me in about 10 seconds.

So that would give you 2 tracks to work with.

 

[moresound]

Sorry Tyson that isn't going to happen, you only have two microphone inputs on that unit. At the very best you could just do the two over heads and try to position them just right to get as much of the drums evenly as possible.
Or One on the kick and one over head.
Or purchase an eight channel interface. There has been one tossed around here lately I think it's a tascam 1642? Not that expensive has eight mic pres so you could go hod wild on micing up a drum set!

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

Is there anything that could help me get around that? Its probably alot of work but has anyone just played it twice thru? Are there any downsides to that (other than having to play it twice)? Is there a way to connect two cable into one? Would they come out on seprate tracks? I know its alot but please help me out here. Thanks.

 

[grimtraveller]

Help from the troll of future past.

With something like this fed into your thingy you can. Each mic goes to each input. But you'll only have mono drums so you'll have to get it absolutely right at source with no scope for later tweaking.

 

[moresound]

There's no picture of the back Grim but all I can see are 1/4 inputs jacks hanging out of the back on that picture. Oh I see your saying LIKE this unit. Carry on.
I guess you could use a little mixer then down to two tracks but like Grim pointed out You'll have no room for adjustments.

You might be able to do just kick and snare then go back and do all of your other work with two over heads but what a pain!
You took a look at that Tascam right?

 

[grimtraveller]

There's no picture of the back Grim but all I can see are 1/4 inputs jacks hanging out of the back on that picture. Oh I see your saying LIKE this unit. Carry on.
I guess you could use a little mixer then down to two tracks but like Grim pointed out You'll have no room for adjustments.

You might be able to do just kick and snare then go back and do all of your other work with two over heads but what a pain!

Just next to the channel four input is a 1/4 inch jack that I presume is an output one.
If you're resolute about keeping what you've got, you're probably going to have to make do with mono drums, which isn't a bad thing, by the way. It depends on what you're looking for.

 

[moresound]

Or use a drum sim or other drum software!

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

Thanks. I'm a drummer myself and I'm not real fond of drum sims. I've searched for things that grim pointed out but couldn't find anything that would work.

I guess you could use a little mixer then down to two tracks but like Grim pointed out You'll have no room for adjustments.

How could you take that down to two tracks? I could probably fiddle with the mics and get them to sound alright so i wouldn't have to do much adjustment.
Thanks guys. Hope you can get back to me.

 

[Lt. Bob]

Thanks. I'm a drummer myself and I'm not real fond of drum sims. I've searched for things that grim pointed out but couldn't find anything that would work.
How could you take that down to two tracks? I could probably fiddle with the mics and get them to sound alright so i wouldn't have to do much adjustment.
Thanks guys. Hope you can get back to me.

ummm ..... it's a mixer. That's what mixers do ...... mix multiple inputs down to one or two tracks.

Your earlier question about combining mics into one input and would that go to seperate tracks ....... how could that happen?
You've combined them so they are now a single entity ..... seperating them would not be possible.

 

[grimtraveller]

ummm ..... it's a mixer. That's what mixers do ...... mix multiple inputs down to one or two tracks.


You've combined them so they are now a single entity ..... seperating them would not be possible.

Until three years ago, I used a mic mixer for drums. My Tascam 488 would only permit simultaneous recording on two tracks that could take a mic. As much of the time an acoustic guitar was also being tracked, I had to use the mixer. I generally tended to use three mics, two as overheads, one on the bass drum. To be honest, it was better than using just one room mic as at least the entirety of the kit got picked up better. The one output went to the 488 and left very little room for change because however you EQ the drums, it will affect both low and high end.
If you want 4 track control you need a recorder/interface with at least 4 ins and outs and simultaneous recording on at least four tracks.

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

Ok. I understand its a mixer. But how would i put put then in one track using one. could you give me an example and tell me what input, outputs, and mics go where and what not. thanks.

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

BTW I would be using a behringer mixer. probably one of these:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-XENYX-X2442USB-USB-Mixer-with-Effects-105783542-i1512171.gc
or, maybe:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-XENYX-X1204USB-12-Ch-USB-Mixer-with-Effects-105939151-i1512165.gc

 

[diggy_dude]

Behringer's owner's manual generally give you a good overview of the mixer's capabilities. The specifications of the two you linked to seem to play up the built-in effects and downplay the number of A/D converters.

I've heard that the effects on Behringer's mixers suck and aren't a good enough reason to buy one.

The number of converters is important because it determines how many simultaneous tracks you can record. I would think if those mixers had more than one converter, it would be touted in the promotional text. You need to find out for sure how many before you buy.

Finally, they mention that it comes with some unknown special Behringer DAW instead of a big name DAW like Cubase or Ableton. That's not necessarily a bad thing as long as you understand you'll have to get separate DAW software. A big question is whether the mixer is compatible with software other than the bundled DAW. I can tell you from experience that Behringer software is useless crap, and my Behringer control surface is flaky with Ableton. All in all, these units don't inspire confidence.

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

diggy_dude Behringer's owner's manual generally give you a good overview of the mixer's capabilities. The specifications of the two you linked to seem to play up the built-in effects and downplay the number of A/D converters.

I've heard that the effects on Behringer's mixers suck and aren't a good enough reason to buy one.

The number of converters is important because it determines how many simultaneous tracks you can record. I would think if those mixers had more than one converter, it would be touted in the promotional text. You need to find out for sure how many before you buy.

Finally, they mention that it comes with some unknown special Behringer DAW instead of a big name DAW like Cubase or Ableton. That's not necessarily a bad thing as long as you understand you'll have to get separate DAW software. A big question is whether the mixer is compatible with software other than the bundled DAW. I can tell you from experience that Behringer software is useless crap, and my Behringer control surface is flaky with Ableton. All in all, these units don't inspire confidence.

Wow, thanks
I've heard the same thing about the effects. Any mixer you have had expierce with that are good? I've also looked into peavey mixer too. Are they any good? I'm going to google the behringer manual right now. Thanks

 

[diggy_dude]

Wow, thanks
I've heard the same thing about the effects. Any mixer you have had expierce with that are good? I've also looked into peavey mixer too. Are they any good? I'm going to google the behringer manual right now. Thanks

I have two Behringer UB1202s and two UB802s without the effects or USB connections. They're just simple standalone mixers. For a mixing desk, I would frankly want one that provides flexible routing (pre- and post-fader inserts, several group buses) and no onboard processing other than a phase inverter switch per channel. It would obviously be geared more toward using a standalone recorder than a DAW. For your purposes, you don't need a mixer at all, since the DAW itself is the mixer. You should look for an interface with a suitable number of mic preamps and converters instead.

 

[.Tyson Studios.]

I just looked at both of the model's manuals. The sub groups each have outputs. So it would work. The problm is that the output is for an intrument cable. would i have to get a 1/4 male to XLR male to get it to the interface? i would have to buy two of them. I dont want to change interfaces, though. Thanks for your help.

 

[guitaristic]

Is there anything that could help me get around that? Its probably alot of work but has anyone just played it twice thru? Are there any downsides to that (other than having to play it twice)? Is there a way to connect two cable into one? Would they come out on seprate tracks? I know its alot but please help me out here. Thanks.

Dude, if you're that desperate to record drums, you need to save up an extra $100 bucks or so and just go buy an interface with 4+ inputs!

 

[diggy_dude]

Dude, if you're that desperate to record drums, you need to save up an extra $100 bucks or so and just go buy an interface with 4+ inputs!

And 4+ converters. You know, just in case you want to mic and record all of the drums at the same time.

 

[moresound]

Tyson if your thinking of purchasing a mixer to do your drum recording you'll be limited and possible disappointed you should instead be looking for a new interface. That Tascam US1641 that I mentioned will make a world of difference on your recording projects.