Proper tracking levels

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Man you guys are like a pack of monkeys fucking a football.


Don't clip your pre's, leave some headroom.

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That must make you the monkey. Which makes sense, they way you like flinging your feces all over this BBS.

@RR: M-Audio rarely produces much in the way of useful specs. You're right, often times the necessary spec is not published. But just as often it is. There's plenty of prosumer level gear that specs it out. And if it's not spec'd, it can rather easily be figured out by anyone who has access to either a VU meter, a multitester or a simple oscillator.

You're the one that brought up the concepts of the varying types of dB scales and then made the claim that there is no correlation between the analog voltage and the digital FS scale. I was just correcting that false notion by reminding you that there is a correlation. and that it is determined by the converter calibration. Whether or not a company decides to publish that information is irrelevant to the reality.

G.
 
Greg_L said:
No feces flinging. It was just a joke. I guess it hit a little close to home, huh?
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Not at all. You fling your feces at everyone at virtually every chance you get. One cannot take personally the rants of a sociopath.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Not at all. You fling your feces at everyone at virtually every chance you get. One cannot take personally the rants of a sociopath.

G.
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But you do anyway. Lighten up, your passive-aggressive soapbox act is just as transparent. ;)
 
poor sod, as if they dont have enough trouble feeding themselves
 
I always track with tons of head room and almost never pay attention to the meters.

I used to belong to a bbs back in the day and got to talk frequently to Joe Ciccarelli (who had just done an album with Elton John) and his tracking levels (digital) were down in the -30db to -24 db range.

I don't track that far down, but he felt w/ digital's noise floor being so quiet, that it's better to have more headroom -- particularly because plug ins require and operate better with more allowance for headroom.

Kev-
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
@RR: M-Audio rarely produces much in the way of useful specs. You're right, often times the necessary spec is not published. But just as often it is. There's plenty of prosumer level gear that specs it out. And if it's not spec'd, it can rather easily be figured out by anyone who has access to either a VU meter, a multitester or a simple oscillator.
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I'm not looking to argue with you but Focusrite makes pretty good stuff. The OP is just starting. I was offering him a practical way to set levels without the need for multiple pieces of test equipment or a calculator.

SouthSIDE Glen said:
You're the one that brought up the concepts of the varying types of dB scales and then made the claim that there is no correlation between the analog voltage and the digital FS scale. I was just correcting that false notion by reminding you that there is a correlation. and that it is determined by the converter calibration. Whether or not a company decides to publish that information is irrelevant to the reality.

G.
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Perhaps you'd accept that, at the level of the DAW software, there is NO single, standard, pre-defined correlation? So, with no manufacturer spec, looking only at the DAW meters, there's no possible way of knowing what voltage level is being applied to the converter inputs.

The question wasn't about what RMS voltage equals what dbu value, it was simply how to set levels.

If he set's up as I described, adjusting source level and converter gain for no indication of clipping then he doesn't need to know what input level the manufacturer chose to calibrate to.
 
Depending on the transient content of the source, most tracks would be way overcooked long before the peaks reach zero.
 
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