Good mic?

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Tacokiller10 said:
Ok ok ok...Ppl I know i havent read the other threads and stuff but i dont really have time 2:eek:
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You know this is the big problem now a days, people have stopped reading. It takes too long, I want it now! Reading is so Old School.

I have learned everything I know from reading books and magazines and then trying things out and finding my own things that work. I read all the manuals. then read them again if I can't get something to work, While I don't consider myself old, I am not a youngster, but friends my age say to me, "How come you know all about computers?", "How do you know how all this gear works?" well it's because I took the time to learn, and if i did not know something I looked it up.

How many threads are started by someone that has not read the manual for the equipment they buy then want it to work instantly and produce results. Oh and buy the way, I have a day job where I write instruction manuals.

SIGH!!:(

Alan.
 
moresound said:
Consider yourself lucky! Most get this ... =------> :spank: :D






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Yeah i've seen folks get much worse here.

Consider this though Tacokiller10.We all try to respond to posts and help each other out.We take time out of our lives to respond to questions and from some of the lengthy posts i've read,a good bit of time.No one's getting paid here to help you out.We share our experience and knowledge out the goodness of our hearts.

When someone asks a question that's been asked a million times and that question has been covered in the stickies it just gets annoying.We're not bashing you but taking a little time to read up on the stickies isn't asking much.

Like Chili said recording is a very time consuming hobby.Why don't you have enough time to read,you're only 14 so what's the rush?
 
Tacokiller10 said:
I was just born an anti-reader :)
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I assume you probably play guitar. Suppose people constantly asked you:

What's the "best" guitar?
Which is "better", a 1956 Stratocaster, or a 1956 Martin D-18?
When should I use a nylon string guitar and when should I use a steel string guitar?
What's the "best" guitar, if I only have $200 to spend?
I just played a $12,000 Martin D-28 and it didn't sound any different than my $200 Takamine - are these a rip off?
I want to get Jimmi Hendrix's "Foxey Lady" sound, so what settings should I use with my Ovation Balladeer?
What guitar should I get for playing classical and heavy metal?

See the problems with trying to answer questions like these? They're either unanswerable, or dependent on getting more information about the kind of music the person want to play, or answers that will be obvious when the person understands a little more about guitar.

It's the same thing with mics. "Best" often means "good enough for my needs" or "better than what I currently own", but unless we know what you means by "best", there's no easy answer. For what purpose? What are you trying to do with it? What problems are you having with the stuff you already own?
 
Tacokiller10 said:
So many questions :rolleyes: lol, but both,the electric will most likely be distorted,picked,and my voice is probally close to male (Im only 14,so yeah :D)
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Sorry man - I'm not trying to be a smartass (well, much ;)) but again, there's no "best" mic, but there are a bunch of very good mics for a particular application if you want a particular set of results. Before you can figure out what those mics are, though, you need to know the application.

You CAN record distorted guitar with a condenser, but if I had to pick just one mic to put on a cab I would start with a dynamic. A Shure SM57 is my go-to for rhythm guitars, and it's not half bad for leads (though I tend to go with a cheap ribbon I own that just seems to sit beautifully on a Rectifier). That'll take care of your electric guitar needs nicely enough, and it's a mic you'll never outgrow.

The problem of course is while it can certaibly be used as a vocal mic (and at your age/experience level anything more vocal-specific would probably be lost on you), it's hardly ideal. Ditto for acoustic guitars, which it's tough to be sure from your answer but it looks like you'd want to be able to record as well.

That said... If you want a single mic for everything, it's going to be all about compromises. I'm probably a little biased as a (mostly electric) guitarist, but I'd still advocate a SM57 or SM58 (same mic, different windscreen) and less-than-perfect vocal and guitar recording over any $100 condensor for a couple reasons. One, a SM57 is pretty flat up to about 15k, and even at 14 there's not THAT much going on in your voice over that point - it's a totally appropriate live vocal mic, and won't really hold you back in the studio on vocals. Acoustic guitars will be missing a little bit of sheen, but I've heard some recordings done with a single SM57 and while the noise floor and sparkle isn't quite as good as a good acoustic it has a not-unappealing woodiness to the sound. Furthermore, the SM57/SM58 is notoriously bulletproof, while condensers are quite a bit more fragile. It's less likely you'll hurt it.

Two, I think a condenser as a close-mic on a guitar cab will be more of a tonal sacrifice than a dynamic as a vocal mic. And probably most importantly - for about $80-90, a SM57/58 is a world class guitar cab mic. For $100, you're not going to be getting all that great of a condenser. It's just a better investment - you can add a condenser down the road when you have some more cash, but if you get really serious about recording over time any $100 condenser you buy will be of limited use to you when you have more money to buy mics. A SM57 or 58, however, is something every pro studio has a whole locker of.
 
moresound said:
I don't know why Harvey but this just struck me funny ..... and found myself really laughing out loud.
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Well, a drummer doesn't give a damn what mic the singer or guitar players use, and a bass player is use to going direct, so I'm guessing he's a singer/guitar player.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Well, a drummer doesn't give a damn what mic the singer or guitar players use, and a bass player is use to going direct, so I'm guessing he's a singer/guitar player.
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Yeah, gone are the days when you could tell who played what by the pizza delivery sign on the car roof.:laughings:
 
Sooo many posts :o but Ive done research (and amazingly I read:).) Im getting a Audio Technica AT2020 for vocals and acoustic guitar.And a Shure SM57 for electric guitar.

Thanks everyone for the help and for telling me to read more:D
 
Tacokiller10 said:
Sooo many posts :o but Ive done research (and amazingly I read:).) Im getting a Audio Technica AT2020 for vocals and acoustic guitar.And a Shure SM57 for electric guitar.

Thanks everyone for the help and for telling me to read more:D
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Great Keep that up and you'll never see those pizza delivery signs that PhilGood spoke of on the top of your car. ;)







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PhilGood said:
Yeah, gone are the days when you could tell who played what by the pizza delivery sign on the car roof.:laughings:
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Well you know it won't be a drummer, they would have lost their licence and would not own a car.:laughings:

Alan
 
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