grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
The man from Del Monte, He say yes !!
Farview
Well-known member
I wasn't addressing the OP, I was addressing the post that I quoted. The OP already got the correct answer...That's what the monitors he bought actually sound like. What's truely retarded is when someone is told that they are being condecending for confirming that the monitors that the OP thought were muddy sounding are, in fact, muddy sounding.
Is it because you aren't a professional that you feel you can litter the forum with your unhelpful posts?
All I was pointing out is that when people buy stuff that sounds like crap and then ask why it sounds like crap, it isn't unreasonable to point out that their stuff is crap, set up wrong, etc...
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
he'll be back ..... they always come back!another angry beginner quitting before he/she even starts
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
there, ............... people misunderstand the term "studio monitor".
As used for the budget monitors that many of us use, the term is totally meaningless.
It's simply a marketing term.
Kinda like a furniture stores' "going out of business" sale. It means nothing.
They slap the monitor term on a pair of speakers and now you have newbies convinced that they'll be more accurate than ANY home stereo speakers for instance even though I can point to countless stereo speakers that are FAR more flat and accurate than any of these so-called studio monitors.
So you have people thinking that NS-10s are good monitoring speakers even though they're horrid.
That doesn't mean you couldn't mix if all you had were NS-10s (although who'd want to?) but you shouldn't be fooled into thinking they're gonna be flat.
Massive gives pro-level advice and he's direct so there's no beating around the bush .... he'll just say if he thinks something sucks.
No need to get insulted about it ..... it's just information. If your budget or ears aren't ready to go that high up, then just note his thoughts (because you'll eventually find it applicable ) and move on to more newbie appropriate info.
I think it's great to have all levels of information available.
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Racherik
New member
1/4" TRS Balanced?
This doesn't sound right. You want RCA Phono to 1/4 Tip/Sleeve without the Ring.
If you hook the monitors to your computers sound card you will likely need a 1/8 stereo Y cable to two 1/4 Mono.
Also try experimenting with the volume levels for your guitar port.
Racherik
This doesn't sound right. You want RCA Phono to 1/4 Tip/Sleeve without the Ring.
If you hook the monitors to your computers sound card you will likely need a 1/8 stereo Y cable to two 1/4 Mono.
Also try experimenting with the volume levels for your guitar port.
Racherik
kcearl
I see deaf people
no i dont think 1/4" balanced is the problem, thats what i use and they're fine..i think the inputs are balanced
Farview
Well-known member
TS or TRS shouldn't matter. The input, output or cable are neither balanced or unbalanced, the signal is. If the toneport is outputing an unbalanced signal, it doesn't matter what kind of cable you use, it will still be unbalanced.
RCA and TS can only pass an unbalanced signal
XLR, TRS can pass a balanced signal, an unbalanced signal or two unbalanced signals.
RCA and TS can only pass an unbalanced signal
XLR, TRS can pass a balanced signal, an unbalanced signal or two unbalanced signals.
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MCI2424
New member
Well.....mud basically. No wait, mud in a box would be more accurate. Honestly guys, the bottom and mid ranges are awful on these. Where is the tight bass and open and detailed top end i've read about? They're anything but clear. The mud and rumbling bass just gets worse as i turn them up. I've been through my entire CD collection in search of something that sounds ok, Strokes, Interpol, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, Crowded House, Pixies etc...all types of stuff and everthing just sounds so boxed in and muddy.
Granted if i lift them to above head height it's marginally better as the drivers become more aligned with my ears. But for £300 set of speakers i feel gutted.
I don't think there is a problem with them, all the frequencies are there, just in the wrong proportions.
My only question would be, do these take a while to run in? That's the only reason i can think of why they sound so poor.
Very disappointed.
Before you give up, go buy a pair of Auralex monitor wedges.
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
Chickenpox, measles and mumps. Which one is best ?
BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS......
the perspective of the live musician up there with the pro mixer up there with the experienced mastering engineer up there with the enthusiastic amateur; knowledge colliding with experimentation grappling with hope wrestling with intent rucking with bias malingering with opinion.
It all has it's place and we're kind of fortunate that such scope exists.
And a hearty "Ah 'gree, soljah !" to that. While the delivery of some statements makes one's toes curl and can seem heartless, for the most part I'm glad they're there because in a way, it's as close to democracy as we're likely to see !
BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS......
the perspective of the live musician up there with the pro mixer up there with the experienced mastering engineer up there with the enthusiastic amateur; knowledge colliding with experimentation grappling with hope wrestling with intent rucking with bias malingering with opinion.
It all has it's place and we're kind of fortunate that such scope exists.
kcearl
I see deaf people
they should shoot pros when they are amateurs 
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
I agree ...... I don't need any up and coming competition.they should shoot pros when they are amateurs
Washburn100
New member
A long time ago, far far away, I had never heard of this balanced/unbalanced thing. When I saw a 1/4"TRS, I thought that was just 1/4" stereo like my headphones.
So, no I have confused myself and have a question. Can you get adapters where the tip, sleeve and ring are soldered to the wrong terminals? That is I'm looking for an RCA to 1/4" adapter, here's one that is TRS, but the signal is unbalanced so who cares except the tip of the rca is wired to the ring of the 1/4" kind of thing?
PDP
There once was a note
I think this thread has confirmed something I've always suspected. These small monitors cant produce good lows. I think you need an 8" speaker at minimum to get decent lows. If speakers are producing frequencies in an artificial way its just going to be hard to trust what you hear.
Farview
Well-known member
It is possible to buy a pre-made cable that is mis-wired. If you have a meter, it is pretty easy to check.
If memory serves, the ring on an RCA to TRS is just grounded like the sleeve. Either that, or it's left disconnected. The most common RCA to 1/4 would be RCA to TS.
If memory serves, the ring on an RCA to TRS is just grounded like the sleeve. Either that, or it's left disconnected. The most common RCA to 1/4 would be RCA to TS.
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buzzard bass
Terminated
Never said I'd quit, just signed off for the night.
Lemme axe a question. What is the focus of this forum? Is it how to build a professional studio in your home, or how the average Joe (like me) can make the most of what they have for recording at home?
I'd love tips from the pros to help me make the best recording I can with what I have. But telling me your stuff's shit, and you need this, this, this and this or else don't bother aint helpful.
Do I expect pro results, no. If I want that I'll go to a studio, I mean the person behind the console is really 99% of the result, a great engineer can make great results with shit equipment, a shit engineer can do the opposite.
I would like, however, to make the most of what I have.
philbagg
Just Killing Time
So you had them below ear height and complained about high end?
Check your chest
Check your chest
Washburn100
New member
Wow, that's the most diplomatic new guy post I have ever seen! You will go far young man.
This is a good forum. The only thing is that it's mostly populated by assholes, not pricks like me!
I have to say that I've been frequenting this forum I think for about 2 or 3 years and I have learned a lot and hopefully gave some back as well. It's just that they are all assholes! Maybe I should start a prick forum where assholes aren't allowed!
PDP
There once was a note
This is a good forum. The only thing is that it's mostly populated by assholes, not pricks like me!
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Yeah we all have personalities, best to tolerate/ignore that part and focus on the info. This is a good forum. Most of the information ends up very accurate because alot of guys are reading/checking the posts. Its a good forum.
kcearl
I see deaf people
its just like any other online community...doesnt matter if you think everyones a dick...get what information you need, share what information you have, pick on a pro every now and then, and be active in the MP3 clinic
then it works...it works good
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buzzard bass
Terminated
There are 3 types of people in this world Chuck, dicks, puss..
and we aint going there, yet.
and we aint going there, yet.