need help connection patchbay?

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if i was running cubase as my daw and a tascam dm 3200 as interface/digital mixer and i had other signal processors outboard units like art vlaii compressor and focusrite octopre mic preamp how would i record with the octopre and my mic pre amp? would i plug my mic in the pre amp and send it to a patch bay or straight to the dm 3200 is there a esyer way i could do this without latency problems. another queston.if i have vocals recorded already in my daw and i wanted to use my vla compressor or any other outboad efx how could i compress the vocals during mixing in the daw? kinda confusing but if anyone can help please really need to know
is a patchbay nessesary all ima record is vocals most of time and i want the preamp sound fro mthe octopre and i dont compress before recording so how could this be done?
 
  1. Plug the mic into the preamp
  2. Plug the preamp into a line in on the mixer
  3. Connect the digital out of the mixer to the daw
  4. Route the channel in DAW

To apply compression to pre-recorded track
  1. Route the recorded track to an AUX out in the DAW
  2. Assign the AUX out in the DAW to a mixer input
  3. Connect an Insert cable on mixer channel to input and output of compressor
  4. Then route the output of the mixer to a separate track in the DAW

You're going to have to set up your routing between the mixer and the DAW on both sides... so that the input and output channels of source and destination can run simultaneously.
 
thanks for clearing it up for me soo a patch bay wont be needed?
and are there any other ways to put compression on the recorded track other than sending it threw an aux
 
You can use plugins within the DAW itself for compression... but you can't compress the signal recorded in-the-box with external hardware, without sending it out of the box. You use an AUX Bus to do this

And a patch bay would just confuse the routing at this point, when you're primarily recording one channel, and are working with limited components...

You'll know when you're ready for one...
 
yeah but if i i send compression threw an aux it will not sound the same as a fully compressed vocal unless i send the output of the vocal track to a bus and on the aux track input bus it aswell and use the aux track fader to change the level for the vocal track while the compression stays the same ...will that work out better?
 
wilkins978 said:
yeah but if i i send compression threw an aux it will not sound the same as a fully compressed vocal unless i send the output of the vocal track to a bus and on the aux track input bus it aswell and use the aux track fader to change the level for the vocal track while the compression stays the same ...will that work out better?
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wat? I can't even parse your question out of that jumble of words.... It doesnt matter where you route a compressed signal. Mofo said it all. If you use an insert cable, make sure your tascam is sending a POST fader signal to the DAW. A lot of interfaces will tap the signal immediately after the gain, before any fx / eq / fader settings are applied.

If that's not an option, send it to an aux, and run the aux back into another unused track. Then the new track is taking the compressed signal as an input.

A compressed signal is compressed. If it sounds 'not as compressed' then you're mixing it with the dry signal or sometihng... It wouldn't matter where you route the signal.
 
wilkins978 said:
thanks for clearing it up for me soo a patch bay wont be needed?
and are there any other ways to put compression on the recorded track other than sending it threw an aux
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You won't want a patch bay if you need to send phantom power to your microphone....very bad juju .



:cool:
 
Your referring to an Aux utilized as an effects bus for repeating across multiple tracks, for something like reverb, where the return is punched up on multiple channels and wet and dry signal are adjusted to the desired amount on the individual tracks all sharing the same effect processor. An Aux bus can be isolated easily to a single channel, with no mix of the dry and effected signal. It's how you move a track out of the DAW
 
If you want outboard processing on a single channel, why not just mix out of the box? Breakout 8 or 16 channels D/A to a mixing board. Is it really worth processing one channel and returning to the daW if your mixing in software?
 
gcapel said:
If you want outboard processing on a single channel, why not just mix out of the box? Breakout 8 or 16 channels D/A to a mixing board. Is it really worth processing one channel and returning to the daW if your mixing in software?
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He's got that capability already with the Tascam... but he's only recording on a single channel...

I don't see a problem with processing one channel outside the box (if the hardware merits it). But in this case it's an additional 2 conversions to pass the signal through a fairly bleah compressor. I'd stick with a plugin myself, but that wasn't the original question.
 
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