Online re-amping service

[chamelious]

Does anyone know of one they'd trust?

I'm looking to get 4 or 5 tracks done, for one song.

Thanks.

 

[SHEPPARDB.]

This guy has some nice hi gainers
http://www.myspace.com/thetomatofarmstudio

 

[chamelious]

Cool! I'm actually thinking of doing the re-amping myself at a local studio, the engineer says it can be done without a re-amp box, is this so?

 

[ggunn]

Cool! I'm actually thinking of doing the re-amping myself at a local studio, the engineer says it can be done without a re-amp box, is this so?

What does a re-amp box do? Can't you just run a channel line out to the amp?

 

[chamelious]

What does a re-amp box do? Can't you just run a channel line out to the amp?

Thats what the engineer says we can do, a reamp box will convert the signal from line level to instrument level i would assume...

 

[Sonixx]

Check Sig for some of my work. PM me if interested.

 

[VomitHatSteve]

From what I gather, a ReAmp circuit is basically just a reversed passive DI. Yeah, it takes your recorded line-level signal, and drops it to instrument level again.
Then you run it through your amp and back into your interface, right?

I'd be a little wary of of paying for online reamping services unless I really trusted the guy. This seems like it's the sort of thing that'd be really easy for a hack to just do in software and claim to be a legitimate studio.

One of the guys here. I think it's... MassiveMastering maybe? has posted links to a couple different "studios" that claim to have the exact same equipment he does and back it up with pictures of his studio.

 

[Seafroggys]

^^^WEll for Off the Spring, I reamped all of your dry guitar signals into my Music Man amp and miked it up. Turned out pretty well.

But yeah, its really likely for hacks to make a quick buck.

 

[kidkage]

Im new hear and noticed this. I've heard the term often before, but I was wondering if someone could explain to me what reamping is?

 

[ggunn]

Im new hear and noticed this. I've heard the term often before, but I was wondering if someone could explain to me what reamping is?

It's when you record a track, usually for guitar, often with a DI off the instrument so that there is no amplifier character to the sound, and then play back the recorded track through an amp or combination of amps and effects and rerecord it. It lets you choose the amp and/or effects later and change your mind if you want.

 

[Kingofpain678]

Does anyone know of one they'd trust?

I'm looking to get 4 or 5 tracks done, for one song.

Thanks.

Dude, If I were you, i'd just ask someone here to do it.
I trust each and every person here and I guarantee that they would be glad to help a fellow HR member.

Post it in the MP3 clinic and describe the tone you're looking for and I'm sure someone will help

 

[upi]

Is using a re-amping device (reverse DI-box) necessary

I have also been trying to get a handle on the whole re-amping concept.

From what I can gather there are 2 major issues to be considered.

1. Guitar output is what is colloquially referred to as High-Z (high impedance) low current (milli-amps) whereas line level is kind of the opposite, i.e. Low-Z with high current. You can tell this because you when plugging a line-level output into a guitar amp you have to turn the signal way down. The DI-box will convert the high-Z guitar output to low-Z (not sure if it boosts the signal at the same time). When you go back the other way (re-amping) you need a re-amping (reverse DI-box) to convert the low-Z to high-Z and possibly cut the input volume.
2. Guitar pickups have the characteristic of being quite dominant in the mid-range of frequency. Thus when recording using a DI-box into a DAW you have to compensate by rolling off the mid-range. Well, I believe the opposite needs to happen when re-amping line-level out to guitar amp in. That is, re-boost the mids before sending it to the amp, or possibly roll back base and treble. I haven't really tried the latter but believe it would be better to give the amp what it is classically expecting.

Do you folk know what the standard (best) practice is in professional recording studios? Do they go to the bother of applying a re-amping box (reverse DI-box). Does taking the trouble to do this produce a noticeably different result?

If so, does anyone have a recommendation for a amateur re-amping unit?

 

[timkroeger]

Dude, If I were you, i'd just ask someone here to do it.
I trust each and every person here and I guarantee that they would be glad to help a fellow HR member.

Post it in the MP3 clinic and describe the tone you're looking for and I'm sure someone will help

Yep, you could do a shootout and people would do it for free. The more specific you are describing in what direction you want to go sound wise, the better the outcome. There will be more people here with amp simulations, some free, some commercial; some might even have the ability to reamp a track with a real amp / mic combination. It would be beneficial, if you posted some other instruments, too, so one could see how the guitar will sit in the mix. If you're lucky, you'll get something you can use. If it doesn't work out you can still go to a professional. Maybe it's worth a try.

Cheers
Tim

 

[timkroeger]

I hate it when that happens...

 

[chamelious]

Haha. Its still relevent, we're preparing to do our album now and i'm going to be reamping.

However i have no interest in sims, i can do that myself. I'm probably going to be reamping my bands equipment in the local studio. (Peavey 3120, peavey 6505, orange tiny terror, cabs with v30s)

 

[timkroeger]

Haha. Its still relevent, we're preparing to do our album now and i'm going to be reamping.

However i have no interest in sims, i can do that myself. I'm probably going to be reamping my bands equipment in the local studio. (Peavey 3120, peavey 6505, orange tiny terror, cabs with v30s)

If it's not too much to ask, could you post both the original and the reamped track once you're done? I'm really curious about the results/differences! Just if you're not too busy.

Cheers
Tim

 

[Farview]

1. Guitar output is what is colloquially referred to as High-Z (high impedance) low current (milli-amps) whereas line level is kind of the opposite, i.e. Low-Z with high current. You can tell this because you when plugging a line-level output into a guitar amp you have to turn the signal way down. The DI-box will convert the high-Z guitar output to low-Z (not sure if it boosts the signal at the same time). When you go back the other way (re-amping) you need a re-amping (reverse DI-box) to convert the low-Z to high-Z and possibly cut the input volume.

A DI box doesn't boost the signal, it attenuates it. so if you use it in reverse, you will end up with a signal that is higher impedance and higher output. This will force you to turn down the DAW output even more, which really screws with your gain staging. This creates noise and other silliness.

2. Guitar pickups have the characteristic of being quite dominant in the mid-range of frequency. Thus when recording using a DI-box into a DAW you have to compensate by rolling off the mid-range. Well, I believe the opposite needs to happen when re-amping line-level out to guitar amp in. That is, re-boost the mids before sending it to the amp, or possibly roll back base and treble. I haven't really tried the latter but believe it would be better to give the amp what it is classically expecting.

Why would you back off the mids on the way in? You aren't recording the DI for listening, you are recording it so you can run it back out to an amp. It doesn't matter what it sounds like.

Do you folk know what the standard (best) practice is in professional recording studios? Do they go to the bother of applying a re-amping box (reverse DI-box). Does taking the trouble to do this produce a noticeably different result?

You simply record the guitar through a high quality active DI box, making sure the levels don't get too hot. (with active pickups, you can use a passive DI box) Then use a proper re-amp box, like the Radial X-amp, to get the signal back to the amp.

The re-amp box not only turns the line level signal back into one the more closely resembles the signal that came out of the guitar, it also isolates the DAW from the recording rig so you don't end up with ground loops.