Splitting or panning Guitars?

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Im new to the whole recording thing. I got Pro Tools M-Powered, and I've been trying to split or pan?(if there's another word for it) the rhythm guitar from the leads. As in on playback I want one guitar on the left side of the speakers and another on the right. Yes I do have them panned opposite directions, but when I go to listen to it in my truck guitars are on both sides. lol have no monitors yet so my truck system is the best thing I got right now

Is it because Im recording in mono?
 
Im new to the whole recording thing. I got Pro Tools M-Powered, and I've been trying to split or pan?(if there's another word for it) the rhythm guitar from the leads. As in on playback I want one guitar on the left side of the speakers and another on the right. Yes I do have them panned opposite directions, but when I go to listen to it in my truck guitars are on both sides. lol have no monitors yet so my truck system is the best thing I got right now

Is it because Im recording in mono?

You should record the individual instruments/tracks (barring some exceptions like maybe acoustic guitar or live piano.....) in mono. Could it be you're mixing down in mono? Does your interface have a mono/stereo switch?
 
Yes it does, I believe its in mono right now, should it be stereo?
I do record individually, it sounded like I don't but yes I do Im not that new haha :p

And I record into the software on a mono track, and what about a bus, should that be mono too? Cause I think thats in stereo.
 
Sounds like you are burning into mono, whether or not you are recording/mixing in stereo.
 
possibly?

so what are your preferences on recording guitar.
Record it stereo or mono then pan it hard
what do you do?
 
Do you not even have headphones?? What do you listen back on?? Or do you just burn the cd without hearing it? :confused:
 
headphones, and cp speakers i was just saying eventually i listen in the truck cause a 700$ sound system is far better than 30$ cp speakers, :D
 
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headphones, and cp speakers i was just saying eventually i listen in the truck cause a 700$ sound system is far better than 30$ cp speakers, :D

Ohhhh... I thought you had no way of listening at all :eek: :)

Don't judge how accurate one system is over another based on the price tag. I'd bet that my €300 KRK RP5's are more accurate than most hi-fi systems for €1000, they probably just don't sound as "pleasing"
 
lol no wayy! gotta have sound

if it gets the job done:D
but ya any suggestions?
 
I have a set of infinity components in my Cherokee, and when I use a flattened EQ setting on my head unit it's pretty spot on with my KRK 6CL's. Only difference is the KRK's have a lower frequency response. (The head unit, and one pair of speakers cost me about $500 just to give a comparison, and I still don't have a sub)

All that aside general practice for rhythm guitars is to record multiple takes, and pan each hard to the left and right. For example You have two tracks for your rhythm, both are two separate recordings. You then pan one 100-75% (or somewhere in between there) to the left, and then do the same for the right. This gives the guitar track a wide, or stereo feel.

Lead guitar. I only ever record one track, and have it panned dead center. How others do it, or say your supposed to do it I can't say. As this has always worked just fine for me.

As far as the mix sounding mono. I think every one else is on the right track in saying that you are unintentionally rendering/mixing down (or what ever it's called in Pro Tools) to mono.

As for monitors. Remember you get what you pay for, and if you can't afford them right now check your mixes on as many different systems as you can. This will at lest give you an idea as to what is going on. But, yes do buy monitors I'd recommend spending no less than $400-500 on a pair that is if you are serious about it. If not then you may be able to get away with something less expensive. But I say go big, or go home.
 
All that aside general practice for rhythm guitars is to record multiple takes, and pan each hard to the left and right. For example You have two tracks for your rhythm, both are two separate recordings. You then pan one 100-75% (or somewhere in between there) to the left, and then do the same for the right. This gives the guitar track a wide, or stereo feel.

Very true, but one common mistake (especially when using distortion) is to use the same guitar+amp+pedals+settings+mic placement+parts for both sides. Even though they're both separate takes, and you won't play them 100% the exact same, they still won't sound very different. And, as we know, when you have two very similar sounds panned left and right, it tends to narrow the stereo width of the sound.

This is kind of a catch 22. If you play the parts really out of timing/pitch, they'll sound different and they'll sound much wider in the stereo field. Wide is good, bad playing isn't. On the flip side, if you play the parts really tight (good), they'll sound less wide, which isn't good. (if you're going for the double-tracked wide wall of guitar sound)

(I take too long to get to the point :D)

So, use different amps or settings or pedals or miking techniques if you're playing similar parts. If the two parts are quite different, then it's not as much of an issue. The result: Wider guitar sound.

Also, it can be a great sound to have two guitar tones that really work well together, even if they sound quite different separately - rather than one tone that sounds good by itself. Experiment ;)
 
always pan guitars 100 percent left and right.
always double track rhythm guitars.

For tricky leads, just do one take and duplicate it.
 
Yes again........... the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains.....sorry got caught up in the moment.



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always pan guitars 100 percent left and right..

Dear OP:

don't do this ^^^^^^^^^^^


Just sayin.

but


I have a feeling you mixed down in mono. Joey hit it on the head.

I didn't read all the posts but it sounds like you did that.


and it could also be a multitude of other things. i should go back and read the other responses. :o
 
Dear OP:

don't do this ^^^^^^^^^^^


Just sayin.

but


I have a feeling you mixed down in mono. Joey hit it on the head.

I didn't read all the posts but it sounds like you did that.


and it could also be a multitude of other things. i should go back and read the other responses. :o

why not?
its a much fuller sound.
 
always pan guitars 100 percent left and right.
always double track rhythm guitars.

Using the word "always" when it comes to mixing is rarely good. Do whatever sounds best. Sometimes they sound best just panned a little. Other times they can sound good with one center, and one left/right etc. etc.

For tricky leads, just do one take and duplicate it.

Don't do this. Duplicating a signal just makes it louder. If you want double tracked, then double track. If you want it louder, turn up the fader. The only time I'll ever duplicate a track is if I'm parallel compressing.
 
Dear OP:

don't do this ^^^^^^^^^^^


Just sayin.

I'm gonna' guess that what LAWL_im_so_EMO said was a bit of a troll and should not be taken seriously...

But I really do like a full pan wayyyyy more than something panned part of the way...for anything in the mix. But LCR is a post for another day. :D
 
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