New Song - How Is This Mix?

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Hey, thanks everyone. I'm really loving all of the great feedback and interaction on hr.com....very cool!

kcearl, thanks for checking it out. No offense at all on the radio comment, that's exactly what I was going for, so I'm glad it seems to be hitting the mark in that regard. I really have to figure out the vocal thing. I'm thinking it might be something I can tame with a very judicious use of EQ, if only I can find the magic frequency to target and cut. I hate to cut the overall level, but if that ends up being the answer then that's what I'll do.

Thanks Squibble94, glad you liked the solo. I had fun with the wah on that one :cool:

Guitar Zero, I appreciate the listen. I don't know about the available for purchase question. For now, I've just been doing this for fun, and I haven't really thought much about doing anything more with the tunes besides just sharing them and trying to get better at writing and recording. Lately though, I have been wondering about joining TAXI or something to see if maybe I could sell a song or two, and this one was my first attempt to create a song with that goal in mind. I think this one is pretty commercial, so if I can manage to write another one or two in a similar vein, I may just try that to see what happens. It sure would be nice to make a little money doing this instead of always just spending it :)

Hey Brad, the backing vocal thing is not hard, it just takes a decent number of tracks and some patience. Basically, I set aside about 8 - 16 tracks, depending on how "Mutt Lange" I want them to sound (although I think he probably set aside at least 24 tracks for this stuff :)). Then I do the high harmonies and double them on about 6 of the tracks and then the low ones and double them on about 8 of the tracks. I typically pan them all over to try to get a nice stereo spread, but I try to balance them, so if I pan two high ones left, I also pan two high ones right, and ditto with the low ones.

I think there are a couple of keys with this type of thing: 1) You have to be really picky about being sure the timing of each doubled line is exactly the same as the original harmony, especially the start and end of the phrase 2) Pitch should be good, but exactness is not super critical because you get a natural phasey type of sound if they are slightly out of pitch and time anyway, which I think works well for this type of backup vocal 3) I used to have to record my backups like this and then bounce in order to save tracks and processing power at mixdown, and depending on your setup that may be the only way to get this to work without getting dropouts and errors. Luckily for me, I recently upgraded to a screamin' fast Mac Pro, so I just let the tracks rip now in Logic, which is really nice :D

Let me know if any of that isn't clear, and I'll definitely try to do a better job explaining.

Thanks again everyone for listening!

Best Regards,

Dave DeWhitt

http://www.soundclick.com/davedewhitt
 
Wow. This does indeed sound remarkably commercial/professional to my ears. There have been some comments about some overused elements...telephone vox, lyrical cliches, etc., and while I agree with those sentiments, they're done so well here it kind of doesn't matter. This is just quintessential radio friendly. One genre's cliche is another's bread and butter, or something like that.

Anyway, I tried to focus on the vocals since they seemed to be a pervasive theme above. My first thought was there was just a particular upper mid frequency that was a tad overbearing but that the overall volume was fine. Warm them up a little but keep 'em loud and you're good to go. Then I realized I have no idea what I'm talking about and decided you may just be fine as is. Good work though :).
 
...I have been wondering about joining TAXI or something to see if maybe I could sell a song or two...
I'd really do some serious reading up on taxi BEFORE shelling out the $300. Very few people actually end up getting songs selected, but the one thing they are very good at is taking your $300 yearly and your $5-10 per song submission. There's huge threads about it over on gearslutz.com. I'd go over there, do a search and read for awhile first.

I think your music is good enough to stand a chance, but in this industry it's a long shot at best.
 
You guys should be signed. That's all that needs to be said.
 
One of the top 10 great arrangement, production, engineering, preformance, and all around great tunesmithing projects I've heard on this forum in the few years I've been listening here. Wanted to give you mo' rep..but I guess I pumped you up on the last one, too.

Ready for the radio.
Shazzam!
 
Thanks Dave, that's what I wanted to know about the bvs. I knew it involved using a few extra tracks, but I've been stopping WAY too short of the Mutt Lange (and Dave Dewhitt) method in my own recordings. Mutt is one of my big-time producer heroes. :)
 
The mix quality is so good that it is beyond my ability to make any useful comments. Apart from that it's really good. :)
 
Thanks so much, everyone. I'm really thrilled to be getting such nice compliments and feedback on the mix and the tune. I truly believe that the feedback I have gotten from you all on previous tunes has been instrumental in helping me get a better mix on this song, so it's highly appreciated.

Jeff, I never said thanks before for the link you sent over on recording heavy guitars, that was a great video, and started me down a path of really trying to research and figure out how to get a decent rhythm sound from Pod Farm. It's still not perfect, but I think it's way better than the Signs of Life rhythm sound, so we're moving in the right direction :)

GZero, I definitely hear you about TAXI, and I will take your good advice and spend some time researching first. I guess the good thing is that it's $300 to join and not $3000, but hey, that's probably how they suck you in, right? ;)

Best Regards,

Dave DeWhitt

http://www.soundclick.com/davedewhitt
 
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