This article sucks ; none of you should read it .

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Joza said:
Well that was the open posters point. He was saying in a sarcastic way that the article is absolutely great, which is very true. :)
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Erm... That's irony... It is said, where I am from, that Americans do not understand sarcasm. I, of course, disagree... :D

Dr. V
 
MCI2424 said:
If you have a great mixing console with great EQ, there is no difference between additive or subtractive EQ.
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Not necessarily. The EQ might react differently when boosting compared to cutting, mainly when it comes to bandwidth. Some EQs are intentionally designed that way.
 
noisewreck said:
Not necessarily. The EQ might react differently when boosting compared to cutting, mainly when it comes to bandwidth. Some EQs are intentionally designed that way.
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furthermore, how many of us have great consoles? or any console whatsoever?

i got halfway through tip #1 and figured i have better things to do. i'm not gonna work out a plan and stick to it. i start every mix with the same goal, to just make it listenable. i have yet to achieve it.
 
I think the whole EQ advice thing ( cut more often ) could be based on a few things ; first , If you want something to be brighter , than it is pretty easy and seems natural to just reach for the boost knobs . And you will boost it (if it's there to start with )...... what if what you want to boost was tracked a little lower ( thus closer ) to the noise floor?? then you're boosting some noise along with it also , and , since you boosted , now you're using more of the total , overall power that's availible ....; ( a mix holds "5lbs" of audio so to speak ) . Also , boosting inches you closer to clipping


So here's the thing , you can get identical results ( make it brighter ) by subtracting some lower mids or the lows , which by a nice coincidence will give you a little more slack in the area that usually sucks up all the power/headroom anyways .... same results but with added side benifits...



The other thing with eq to keep in mind is that it is true that cuts or boost will muck with the sound equally by causing the same phase changes ( sometimes that works out sounding good !) ;but the real difference as far as phase goes is how steep ( "Q", bandwith ect.) is . use the wider , mellower (less steep) shapes when possible ( or steepness if you like what you hear !!)




Cheers
 
flatfinger said:
I think the whole EQ advice thing ( cut more often ) could be based on a few things ; first , If you want something to be brighter , than it is pretty easy and seems natural to just reach for the boost knobs . And you will boost it (if it's there to start with )...... what if what you want to boost was tracked a little lower ( thus closer ) to the noise floor?? then you're boosting some noise along with it also , and , since you boosted , now you're using more of the total , overall power that's availible ....; ( a mix holds "5lbs" of audio so to speak ) . Also , boosting inches you closer to clipping


So here's the thing , you can get identical results ( make it brighter ) by subtracting some lower mids or the lows , which by a nice coincidence will give you a little more slack in the area that usually sucks up all the power/headroom anyways .... same results but with added side benifits...
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That is a valid explanation, but I think there's another one behind the cut instead of boost idea. I think the main thing The Ancients wanted us to remember is that the EQ problems with most instrument tracks are not problems of there not being enough "good stuff", but rather there being too much of the "bad stuff" mucking up the sound, and the best way to cure that and improve the sound is to notch out the bad stuff.

This is why the more accurate version of the axiom doesn't simply say "cut instead of boost", that's a newbish oversimplification that has especially taken off on the InterMuck in the last few years. The full axiom really says, "Use EQ boost to make it sound different, but use EQ cut to make it sound better."

It is also the reason for the other related axiom about EQ that states, "Boost shallow and wide, cut narrow and deep."

G.
 
Nice ,


Dot the I's and cross those t's like that anytime man . That sums it up totally . game , set , match!!!!:D
 
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