one of the most important questions in music. no jokes

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well,
lets summarize what we have by now:

80 posts of thoughts and and fun, i hope. and the most dominating idea was to learn/steal a bunch of licks and then, having that foundation, try to go "outside" of those templates when improvising. it is absolute truth, been told by many many greats.
the worst thing is that, when i used to learn those licks, i used to loose against the temptation to go my way after i found first notes of that lick. is it very bad? i dont know. well, i have some of those licks in my head, but i almost forgot most of those licks ive ever learned. u may think, that it is the worst i ever did while learning to play...
i always want to go my way, to hold on strongly to my creative thoughts. as steve vai says: "first u have to have a huge self confidence, strong personality". then u can make music even with spoons or eyelashes.

and now (i think i had to do it earlier) i open all my cards. here is my myspace with 3 very raw demo tracks:
http://www.myspace.com/marioantigod
everything was done by me, except drum loops. songs need improvement, but u'll have a idea.

i hope that it will bring the best and the most constructive summarizing.
all the constructive thoughts and critics about the music are welcomed. thoughts about non musical things, i think, should not be in this thread.
thanks.
 
Which kind....red or green?


What about....with or without fruit, and what kind of fruit?
 
This entire thread was you asking how to get ideas from your head to your fingers…and you implied how you’ve had difficulty in doing so.
If you can't hear the hesitation/indecision in your lead guitar playing...
…then ignore my comments (though you DID ask for opinions).
Your leads sound tentative...like you're not sure or comfortable about your playing.

The point you need to take away…is that it’s all fixable through practice, otherwise, like I said…you have some good ideas there, they just need to be worked out and polished.
 
miroslav said:
This entire thread was you asking how to get ideas from your head to your fingers…and you implied how you’ve had difficulty in doing so.
If you can't hear the hesitation/indecision in your lead guitar playing...
…then ignore my comments (though you DID ask for opinions).
Your leads sound tentative...like you're not sure or comfortable about your playing.

The point you need to take away…is that it’s all fixable through practice, otherwise, like I said…you have some good ideas there, they just need to be worked out and polished.
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don't attack the guy, give him advice on how to improve.
 
ez_willis,
what do u think?
btw, do u guys have your music to listen to?
 
Mario (hope that's your name), I just listened to all three of your songs and you know what - I like them.

Yes it needs polish and you could use better gear, who couldn't?, but overall it's, sorry to tell you, it's just not that weird. It is yet more music, like mine, based on what's come before but a little different.

You're not doing anything wrong, just keep doing it.

BUT: no matter how many tracks one guy lays down on a recording, it will always only sound like 1 soul. That's why most music is not done by one guy alone - it's generally boring compared to music made by a few people in a room. You can hear the souls. With two it goes back and forth like pong. With three the real magic begins because it can go back and forth between two, around in a circle... it gets very interesting real fast with three.

So find some buddies to add stuff, even if it's just a soda can with rice shaker, and it will improve your music a lot. Music isn't about your guitar or improvising, your main focus should always be on the songs. It can even sound like shit and if the song is good then people will like it.
 
ez_willis said:
doesn't matter what i think. you're not writing music for me.[/URL]
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what do u mean? why u r asking others to give me advices, but u cant tell your opinion?
btw, nice song. simple, but strong. what is your instrument in that song?
thanks.
 
marioantigod said:
what do u mean? why u r asking others to give me advices, but u cant?
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because i don't really like that kind of music so i think it sucks. not because it sucks but because it ain't my thing. but since you asked, like everyone else said, the solo sounded like a hesitant amateur. keep practicing.


marioantigod said:
what is your instrument in that song?
thanks.
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that's all me except the guitar solo.
 
And there's no rules.

Lots of people have made great music by themselves. There's no rules!

The song will tell you what to do. It will tell you what kind of solo to do, how to sing, everything. I think it's better to focus on the song than on all the other stuff you were talking about.
 
marioantigod said:
ez_willis,
what do u think?
btw, do u guys have your music to listen to?
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What I think doesn't matter either but I'm going to tell you because you asked. I'll try to keep this about audio only because the other issue you raised is simple and not worth arguing about. I believe in God, I win.:D In the name of Jesus:

All three of your tunes are super muddy. You can't understand the vocals and the eqing and effects are terrible.

One of the first things I learned in audio is that if you hear alot of effects it usually(not always) indicates the performance and/or material sucks. It's usually the works of a person not happy with the mix.

IMHO the audio quality is hindering your improv big time. When the sound is muddy it means there are two or more instruments trying to occupy the same frequencies within a particular range. Without spatial separation we can hear only the louder one. For example, 10 secs into your first demo where did the bass drum go? Watch out when you apply phase shifting to that mess especially when it adds no musical value.

If you improv your guitar to a mess, where do you sound good at any particular time when the bass and rhythm guitar is phasing over the same frequecies you have at your disposal? If you are playing by ear and you hear brumhnnderdicky how the hell do you support that?(oops sorry for the God reference). Easy answer, you don't.

The lack of clarity in the vocals is a product of this too. When you mix your vocals keep in mind that if you can't hear the words your message doesn't get across.

If you look at your mix like a painting on an easel you don't want to put all your ideas in the middle on top of each other do you? Fix your audio and your playing will come along tenfold. Fix your sources and the audio will mix itself.

From the performance end of things, learn your scales and practice them. Practice, practice, practice makes perfect. You hit some sour notes in your leads which means to me that your fingers don't know enough yet.:D you're doing good and your still young!

Merry Christmas!

















oops...wise guy huh, pop! Three Stooges all day today on the cable - certainly
 
thanks for good advices. i recorded it only using 12 string acoustic guitar, software simulations and laptop's mic. i used the same guitar's thickest strings for "bass". sorry that i made u listen to that mud, but its all i got at the moment.
btw, everything is a total improvisation, so there are few really bad notes.
im not trying to defend myself. no. im not satisfied with the mix and songs, and u noticed that. i hope that i will be able to make them better remaking them. though im often afraid that i dont have the ability to jump higher.
thats why i came to this forum.
i really appreciate your advices. your advices are the best presents for me.
enough tears. see ya:)
 
I am VERY late to the party, but I will answer the OP. I played for a living for years in all genres. I played shows with out rehersals and just charts, improving was a must!!! You hit a critical point with the vocal statement, it is immediate, where with the guitar it is delayed. Speech is learned at an early stage in the brains development, if you learn speech past that critical stage, you will never have the gift we all take for granted, it would require thinking it out as you are saying. Most of us learned to play after that critical stage when music would be as easy as speech, which is 99.9% of us. So what to do???
Here is what I did and do, I saw a leason with Carl Verheyen that confirmed what we do ( I have attached the link). We have our ideas already worked out, stringing together lines and ideas and making the work with styles. The best of us only improvise 30% of the time on a good night, and I am talking the big boys. Carl Verheyen is a MONSTER, check him out for more direction.
 
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