Mastering Question

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Sorry, Harvey, I didn't mean to step on your toes, but he was raising new questions.

I thought you were spot on with your advice. His songs were not really that far apart from one another as far as level goes. But they did need the touches you mentioned.

Hey Kokycoal, Harvey is a well seasoned professional engineer. When he stops by and speaks, we all usually learn something. Massive too, I don't think I've ever seen these guys hand out bad advice to anyone. And the lessons are free if you are willing to listen. How cool is that?
 
RawDepth said:
Sorry, Harvey, I didn't mean to step on your toes, but he was raising new questions.

I thought you were spot on with your advice. His songs were not really that far apart from one another as far as level goes. But they did need the touches you mentioned.

Hey Kokycoal, Harvey is a well seasoned professional engineer. When he stops by and speaks, we all usually learn something. Massive too, I don't think I've ever seen these guys hand out bad advice to anyone. And the lessons are free if you are willing to listen. How cool is that?
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No, Raw, I was just kinda surprised that Kokycoal didn't even acknowledge my post, or the fact that I listen to everyone of the songs all the way through before I made any comments.

(I won't even mention the 12 hours of Flatt and Scruggs tapes I did in the 60's, or the Kentucky Colonels live tapes I still have, or the early Dillards stuff, so recording Bluegrass is not entirely unknown to me.)
 
Harvey Gerst said:
No, Raw, I was just kinda surprised that Kokycoal didn't even acknowledge my post, or the fact that I listen to everyone of the songs all the way through before I made any comments.

(I won't even mention the 12 hours of Flatt and Scruggs tapes I did in the 60's, or the Kentucky Colonels live tapes I still have, or the early Dillards stuff, so recording Bluegrass is not entirely unknown to me.)
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I am so sorry if I offended you. I really appreciate your comments and the fact that you listened. I guess I got caught up in trying to do one thing and got tunnel vision. Again I am sorry if I offended you and thanks for your time.
 
kokycoal said:
I am so sorry if I offended you. I really appreciate your comments and the fact that you listened. I guess I got caught up in trying to do one thing and got tunnel vision. Again I am sorry if I offended you and thanks for your time.
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Nah, I was just a little miffed, since I was very involved in Bluegrass in the 60's and 70's. Doug and Rodney Dillard, Byron Berline, and Clarence White were all pretty good friends of mine and I really did develop a big love for Bluegrass.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Hmmm, I guess my post wasn't very helpful. Oh, well, I tried.
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Au contraire mon ami.

I thought you stood out by being kind. Some of the posts here aren't, and it's hard to imagine great art coming from people who aren't kind and humble.

Keep in mind too, that sometimes someone will post something and then go on a lunar expedition so they might be away from their computer for awhile.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Nah, I was just a little miffed, since I was very involved in Bluegrass in the 60's and 70's. Doug and Rodney Dillard, Byron Berline, and Clarence White were all pretty good friends of mine and I really did develop a big love for Bluegrass.
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WOW!!! You are in there with bluegrass royalty, heck music in general royalty. I bet you could tell some stories!?!?!? Do you still do mastering/mixing work?
 
kokycoal said:
WOW!!! You are in there with bluegrass royalty, heck music in general royalty. I bet you could tell some stories!?!?!? Do you still do mastering/mixing work?
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I still have a studio (ITRstudio.com) and yes, I do mastering work, but the mastering guys here are far better at it than I am.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
I still have a studio (ITRstudio.com) and yes, I do mastering work, but the mastering guys here are far better at it than I am.
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I am going to start a new project after Christmas. I just may get in touch with you when I get it finished. I'm gonna go search for your website.
 
kokycoal said:
I am going to start a new project after Christmas. I just may get in touch with you when I get it finished. I'm gonna go search for your website.
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Uhhh, before you make any decisions, here's the last bluegrass group I recorded a few years ago:

Red Wing

Not exactly my finest hour. :(

In my defense, it was an exercise to see how well cheap mics would work (if that's all you had available). The bass was recorded using a Behringer ECM8000, and all the other instruments were recorded using MXL603's.
 
That is not as bad as you think. I wonder if that is the same Redwing band that I am familiar with. I think the mics did okay. I feel like it was a real traditional sound. The stuff we do is considered bluegrass but has a classic country edge. I would love to see what you could do with it...I want to throw away the "rules" of bluegrass albums when I mix/master the next one. I want to put a more modern edge to it.
 
kokycoal said:
That is not as bad as you think. I wonder if that is the same Redwing band that I am familiar with. I think the mics did okay. I feel like it was a real traditional sound. The stuff we do is considered bluegrass but has a classic country edge. I would love to see what you could do with it...I want to throw away the "rules" of bluegrass albums when I mix/master the next one. I want to put a more modern edge to it.
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The band is called Up The Creek - a local (Denton, Texas) band.
 
Mastering etc

Hey kokycoal,
Sorry to self promote, but I am a mastering engineer and think I may be of some assistance. You would do well to avoid normalizing as it's pretty pointless as if there is even one nano second of much louder content, the "normalizer" will "normalize" to it. A limiter will do much better work if used properly.
For blue grass, the reason behind hiring a good mastering engineer is that he can get it to sound "professionally loud" without it sounding like he is using compression. I'm one of the guys mentioned earlier that post on here that can do a whole record for under (sometimes way under) $400. I'd be glad to master one song for free if you're interested.

(For a good proof that I am in fact a mastering engineer and not a 14 year old or something check out the before and after's on www.ChrisGrahamMastering.com )
 
Grahamrunsran said:
Hey kokycoal,
Sorry to self promote, but I am a mastering engineer and think I may be of some assistance. You would do well to avoid normalizing as it's pretty pointless as if there is even one nano second of much louder content, the "normalizer" will "normalize" to it. A limiter will do much better work if used properly.
For blue grass, the reason behind hiring a good mastering engineer is that he can get it to sound "professionally loud" without it sounding like he is using compression. I'm one of the guys mentioned earlier that post on here that can do a whole record for under (sometimes way under) $400. I'd be glad to master one song for free if you're interested.

(For a good proof that I am in fact a mastering engineer and not a 14 year old or something check out the before and after's on www.ChrisGrahamMastering.com )
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Sorry to take so long to reply. I just go my electricity back on here in East Ky. We got hit hard by the snow. I was without power for 4 1/2 days. What a nightmare. Anyways, I am gonna listen to your stuff. I will get back to you and thank you for your time.
 
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