darrin_h2000
Banned
Ive been toying with the idea of putting a charvel neck on my variax...and I know that a strat neck fits right on to a variax body...does anyone know if a charvel neck fits on a strat the same?
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Micter
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Charvel neck pocket is the same as Fender.
Tadpui
Well-known member
I think it depends on which era of Charvel you're talking about.
Charvel is currently owned by Fender, so the currently manufactured ones would probably have a good chance of fitting. But when Charvel was owned by Jackson, they used the Jackson spec of neck with the wide/flat profile similar to Ibanez and PRS. Back in their first days, Charvel was just a custom shop that would hot-rod Fenders, so of course at that time their necks would fit. They just used the existing neck and planed the fretboard to a flatter radius.
So if the Charvel neck has a script logo in the same style of Jackson's logo, chances are that it wouldn't fit. Otherwise, it might.
Charvel is currently owned by Fender, so the currently manufactured ones would probably have a good chance of fitting. But when Charvel was owned by Jackson, they used the Jackson spec of neck with the wide/flat profile similar to Ibanez and PRS. Back in their first days, Charvel was just a custom shop that would hot-rod Fenders, so of course at that time their necks would fit. They just used the existing neck and planed the fretboard to a flatter radius.
So if the Charvel neck has a script logo in the same style of Jackson's logo, chances are that it wouldn't fit. Otherwise, it might.
darrin_h2000
Banned
Im thinking of buying one off ebay...Id need set up for a Kahler since the nut is still intact and not routed off entirely like a floyd would be...anyhow I think it might be from the era that Hondo bought them out...but I think all the necks were made to the same spec.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380184002409&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Micter
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darrin_h2000
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I just scored an Eden neck off of ebay...its made to go onto a strat...and its the same shape and action as the Charvel...I paid under $40 and it came with tuners and nut.
slowmotion
New member
Pretty much. Any of the new new ones should be cool. But there was also a couple of different Charvel logos too under Jackson ownership so be mindful of that too.
I LOVE my Model 2 neck!
An extremely minor point, but that model didn't come with a Kahler nut. It looks quite similar, and it's equally painful to deal with, but it *should* have a JT6 nut on the lower Model series. Same screw pattern but I think there's a difference with the locking screws that go into the plates (metric/imperial). [/pedantic]
Interested to see this Eden neck? Pics?
darrin_h2000
Banned
slowmotion
New member
$40?! Score. Plus a floyd nut, great! 24 frets and maple on maple = 
darrin_h2000
Banned
It doesnt have a tremolo system but that nut should be just fine...I just wanted that variax to have a killer neck too.
I have about 10 guitars to sell now...lol.
I have about 10 guitars to sell now...lol.
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
I believe most Charvels except for the really old ones are 2 1/4" heel vs. a Fender 2 3/16".
darrin_h2000
Banned
The one I ordered is supposed to be a 2 3/16...I hope it fits right into the Variax body...according to warmoth the neck pockets for the strats are the same as line6 pockets....and Ive heard too that the charvel necks go right into the strat bodies...so hopefully the one I ordered will be a good fit...I dont really wish to have to plane it down.
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
The model series Charvels were definitely 2 1/4" heels. I've had several.
But it doesn't sound like you went that way.
Concerning the neck you pictured, I'm curious as to how a 24 fret neck can be said to fit a Strat.
But it doesn't sound like you went that way.
Concerning the neck you pictured, I'm curious as to how a 24 fret neck can be said to fit a Strat.
darrin_h2000
Banned
I guess we will find out real soon...Im supposed to have it here by thursday...but the stuff said 2 3/16 heel...and that is a strats measurement...its common for the fingerboard to overlap the heel a little.
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
A 22 fretter overhangs the heel a bit, a 24 fretter would overhang the heel more than an inch, which doesn't look to be the case on that neck, so even if it fits the pocket it will blow your scale length.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade.
darrin_h2000
Banned
So...it will be neck heavy?...thats not so bad really.
metalhead28
Hates Raymond
You can't just move the neck down, the neck has to be positioned to work with the scale length.
A 24 fret neck with a 25.5" scale has to have the pocket closer to the bridge than a standard Strat.
A 24 fret neck with a 25.5" scale has to have the pocket closer to the bridge than a standard Strat.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
HUGE +1. Make sure you can get the guitar to intonate correctly before you make any rash decisions here. If the neck is designed with an "overhang" with frets 23 and 24 extending farther than the neck block, you might be able to make it work, although 1.) sustain tends to suffer for the frets without any mass from the neck behind them (common issue on older Ibanez guitars, which were designed like this) and 2.) you might run into issues with your neck pickup, if there is one on this guitar.
darrin_h2000
Banned
Its got 6 piezos pickups located on the bridge itself...Ill have to ask a local guy to look at it and see if this stuff will be much of a problem on this guitar...Intonation might be the only issue here.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
That's a pretty big issue, though. It'd involve either recutting the neck pocket or moving the bridge, and you have to position it within a millimeter or so if you want to have any hope of intonating the guitar properly when you're done. Otherwise, the thing will never be able to be played in tune. Open strings might be fine, but the frets won't be positioned correctly relative to the bridge and it'll just sound out.