TelePaul
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Anyone know anything about this?
elenore19
Slowing becoming un-noob.
I've heard you should just spend $50 and get the Super Champ XD.
I personally have never used the vibro champ. But I own the SCXD, can't get enough of it.
TelePaul
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Don't live in the land of the almighty dollar I'm afraid.
wbcsound
New member
Very good amps in my opinion if you're into Fender tones. The higher gain tones are decent as well, but not quite as inspiring.
Gear_Junky
New member
I have SCXD, but played through the VCXD in a store, demoing guitars. Seemed about the same to me - some people actually prefer VCXD.
SCXD is Class A/B, VCXD is Class A (some people prefer it, if they can hear the diff).
VCXD will not give you clean/overdrive footswitchability.
Also VCXD has a smaller speaker (8", right), but you should be able to drive an external cabinet with great results.
I would still say - wait for a sale or a discount coupon and get SCXD. I got mine for $229 shipped last spring. it was 'blem', but nothing was wrong.
if you really can't or if VCXD seems to have everything you want, still wait for a coupon and then get it
SCXD is Class A/B, VCXD is Class A (some people prefer it, if they can hear the diff).
VCXD will not give you clean/overdrive footswitchability.
Also VCXD has a smaller speaker (8", right), but you should be able to drive an external cabinet with great results.
I would still say - wait for a sale or a discount coupon and get SCXD. I got mine for $229 shipped last spring. it was 'blem', but nothing was wrong.
if you really can't or if VCXD seems to have everything you want, still wait for a coupon and then get it
wbcsound
New member
The Live.com cashback option is excellent if you can wait for the money...
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mrface2112
Well-known member
I had one of the VCXD's for about 2 days. It went back. In short, any/all of the "vintage" Champs that i've had blew it out of the water.
The tone was pretty good for an amp that's trying to do too much and can't hang. I posted a thread here raving about it the day i brought it home......but that was while listening to it by itself and before i plugged into a "real" old champ. I liked the "marshall" sound (#9?) best, and the blackface sound was pretty good. The rest of the sounds were digital and lifeless.
The speaker sucks. It sounds like cheap cardboard. It recorded like poo. The cheap plywood cabinet had a lot to do with that. Using a well-broken in speaker in a pine box helped somewhat, but it still couldn't hang with a "real" champ. The line out was sterile sounding, like a bad DI with a plugin running. Good enough for maybe getting a sketch of an idea down, but that's about it.
The worst part, IMO, was that you couldn't get the digital modelling crap out of the way. you always go through the digital preamp and the models. I do think that they did it "right" in making it have a tube-based power section instead of a toooooob based preamp. But still, i didn't like that i was always modelling. The post effects were pretty good, albeit somewhat limited in options.
I could seriously see a use for an amp where you could switch in the modeller somewhere inline between the preamp and power amp sections (like in an effects loop)......but where you could also switch it OUT as well and just use the amp as a plain old tube amp. I might could go for one of those.
I'd save a few extra sheckels, rubles, whatever your local currency is, and find yourself a silverface champ or vibrochamp. much better amps than these.
That said......if you're simply looking for an amp to bang around with at home that's a jack of all trades/master of none.....or for a kid's first amp--it's hard to beat these offerings from Fender. I would have LOVED to have had one of these at age 14!!!
But if you're looking for pure, unadulterated TONE.....look elsewhere.
cheers,
wade
The tone was pretty good for an amp that's trying to do too much and can't hang. I posted a thread here raving about it the day i brought it home......but that was while listening to it by itself and before i plugged into a "real" old champ. I liked the "marshall" sound (#9?) best, and the blackface sound was pretty good. The rest of the sounds were digital and lifeless.
The speaker sucks. It sounds like cheap cardboard. It recorded like poo. The cheap plywood cabinet had a lot to do with that. Using a well-broken in speaker in a pine box helped somewhat, but it still couldn't hang with a "real" champ. The line out was sterile sounding, like a bad DI with a plugin running. Good enough for maybe getting a sketch of an idea down, but that's about it.
The worst part, IMO, was that you couldn't get the digital modelling crap out of the way. you always go through the digital preamp and the models. I do think that they did it "right" in making it have a tube-based power section instead of a toooooob based preamp. But still, i didn't like that i was always modelling. The post effects were pretty good, albeit somewhat limited in options.
I could seriously see a use for an amp where you could switch in the modeller somewhere inline between the preamp and power amp sections (like in an effects loop)......but where you could also switch it OUT as well and just use the amp as a plain old tube amp. I might could go for one of those.
I'd save a few extra sheckels, rubles, whatever your local currency is, and find yourself a silverface champ or vibrochamp. much better amps than these.
That said......if you're simply looking for an amp to bang around with at home that's a jack of all trades/master of none.....or for a kid's first amp--it's hard to beat these offerings from Fender. I would have LOVED to have had one of these at age 14!!!
But if you're looking for pure, unadulterated TONE.....look elsewhere.
cheers,
wade
Gear_Junky
New member
well, that's all true
that's why people tend to replace the speaker and/or drive a cab, with good results.but that's also why people go for SCXD - it has a 10" speaker. I love mine, but I still feel that I'd much prefer the sound of 1 or even 2 12" speakers. That's why I'm eyeing a cheap cab.
In my experience line-out sounded very good (not as good, but close) on my SCXD and just about all SCXD reviews I read. TelePaul, you better listen to this guy, try the SCXD instead
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jonnyc
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Sorry, for 50 extra polished creek rocks or 2 bails of barley you can upgrade to the SuperChamp.
TelePaul
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Sorry, for 50 extra polished creek rocks or 2 bails of barley you can upgrade to the SuperChamp.
I don't even know what that's about.