i still see that brzilian is piping his views across then... same old same.
now lets go back a while as to when i was on here regularly, i was making a version of an argosy style desk and almost finished and i proved that you could make a desk like with full flat pack capability and modular of quite a large size for under 100 bucks.
however at the time a certain member here who i still remember got in touch with argosy and pointed them to my thread showing the build i was doing and the fact i was offering my plans. i then had a lawyers letter sent to me in the uk concerning a desk that i changed in various ways to suit myself.
now the funny this is that argosy had no design patent or copyright in the uk that was applicable under uk law. it took one email and a phone call to argosys lawyers to put them straight as to this and the stance of this under uk law of which they had not the slightest clue about. you see uk design patent law is only applicable to countries that are part of the patent and design act... guess what.. the usa isnt one of them, however the owner of this site is in the usa so to stop him getting into trouble i removed the plans of the desk.
however i still have photos of what it looked like, and displaying them with no means of making a profit or in doing so showing the means of construction im not breaking any usa laws. here is a photo of what i was working on, sorry i cant show you detailed images but you get the idea, this whole desk is from just 2 pieces of mdf board.
now the one thing to remember you guys in the states, you are applicable to us design and patent laws so any reference you make to copying or referencing an argosy, omnirax or any other copmanies console desk designs are subject to possible law suit.
if you are going to use them as a reference then fine however dont clone the desk and pass it off as your own and then post photos or such online.
now im in a fortunate position in that after reading up uk design and patent law im able to get on with my own desk design and upon d&p application i can get a dual application here and in the us on the same day making it a worldwide d&p.
so remember, if you want any design or patent to become valid in the uk you have to :
1: for a patent to become valid in the uk from the us the us company has to patent it here first, if it does not the patent is only applicable in the originating country. this is the primary rule in uk patent law.
2: the only country not covered by uk design law is the us, this is because the us did not sign upto the COPYRIGHT-DESIGNS AND PATENTS ACT 1988
now the best thing is i just found that old thread and yep brzilian was the ass who made the dumbass comment back then, and his reply was geez i struck a nerve .... well its been a while but to answer your response , nope you didnt stike a nerve you just proved how much of an idiot you really were at the time and still are. you made an ill judged comment against me without having any facts present and going on just your own hunches and misinformation.
anyway, im back with plans for a desk system of my own which i will gladly share with you all once the prototype is done. and i prove the math and engineering it should come in sub 200bucks.
heres the info i posted back then from my original thread.
pk1
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Originally Posted by brzilian
Based on the last post in there before it was deleted, I think Argosy's legal people went after the guy because he was essentially knocking off their product and posting drawings so that people could do the same. I'd probably do the same if I were them...
for your information mate i wasnt knocking their design off at all, and also under u.k law i wasnt doing anything illegal, however if i had imported into the united states then they may of been able to bring a case against me, however they would have to prove that it was my intention to mass produce or encourage mass production of any form of studio based furniture, also they do not hold copyright over individual parts only the whole and as such the sum of the parts are exempt, otherwise omnirax would not exist neither would any other console furniture or studio furniture manufacturer exist as this would be a breach of patent or copyright as the furniture being made would bear the same similarity of use and purpose as theirs.
however i was kindly asked if i could remove these details from the server, as this server is in the united states the owners of the server could be served with removal papers, so i have removed the thread by way of good gesture to argosy.
you see the law clearly states in the uk, that any patent filed for the first time in a country other than the uk which is not recognised under the COPYRIGHT-DESIGNS AND PATENTS ACT 1988 and i quote:
Qualifying for protection
Under the CDPA 1988, design right only exists in a design document (or article) if the document (or article) itself qualifies. Put at its simplest, a design document does not qualify for design right protection in the UK if it does not have a sufficient link to a qualifying country. The qualifying countries are at present the EU countries and a further list of mainly Commonwealth countries. The USA is not one of them.
so once again brzilian you have got your facts wrong as you were wrong about thermal build up when i was making the console for my own use at home.
in future i suggest you only post about things you clearly know about and keep your dumbass comments to yourself.
oh and just so you can clarify things further read this.. this explains things in better detail.
http://www.legal500.com/devs/uk/ip/ukip_040.htm
and if you still cant get it into your thick skull then please feel free to dig a hole and stick your head in there
...i guess he didnt find a big enough spade..
