Electric Guitar needed in my budget.

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Fender Super Champ XD I will definatly try. I like it to because i can upgrade it later with a new cab! Any other suggestions keep em coming! Ill write everything down and try it at guitar center.
 
finalfury1 said:
I was listing things that I was told was a good idea to check out... The mesa has a sound like blink 182 and maybe bands like relient k. Um... I was just listing them because I was considering...
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Cool cool, I wasn't criticising. If you've decided on double humbuckers then there are a lot of cool guitars out there. Have you checked out Tom Delonges signature strat? It has an invader humbucker in the bridge. Getting that new punk sound shouldn't be too tough.
 
TelePaul said:
Cool cool, I wasn't criticising. If you've decided on double humbuckers then there are a lot of cool guitars out there. Have you checked out Tom Delonges signature strat? It has an invader humbucker in the bridge. Getting that new punk sound shouldn't be too tough.
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no it cool... Wasn't talking in that tone... Lol... How do you type your tone... I am a sarcastic kind of guy. I really appreciate your advice. So thanks all and keep it coming if you see something in the least bit interesting because I am looking for mainly quality with a budget in mind. Anyone know of any used gear sites that sell good quality?
 
Check out the Peavey JF2 EXP. If you don't need the vibrato tailpiece, then check out the Peavey JF1 EXP. I'd bought my slightly used Gold Sparkle JF2 EXP when I was looking for a rockabilly box, and happened to recognize it as the same one that I'd tried out when it was new. Although I'd been looking for a hollow/semi-hollow body guitar with P90s, I ended up with the P90 tones but without the hum.

Matt
 
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well with that kind of budget you ain't going to get a Mesa Boogie amp
I would suggest getting looking on your local craigslist for a used peavey Valve King. Daddys junky guitars has several Valve Kings at a good price.
You can also pick up some fantastic deals on used guitars there also.

most all guitars (regardless of what they look like) have one of three sounds
Stratocaster, Telecaster or Les Paul these tones are contributed to the type of pickups used and the configuration of the pups in relation to where they are located on the guitar body.

the type of tone you are looking for would be found in a Gibsom/Epiphone LP, SG or flying V or even a t bird or something along the lines of humbuckers with a similar configuration at rhe bridge and neck locations.

if you were playing southern rock or country a tele would be a good choice

strats can be used for any Genre of music from honky tonk to death metal.

JM.02

Squier or Epiphone are both good choices however there are a lot of other companys out there who make just as good equipment as either I have mentioned.
However...
if you are wanting a high end custom built guitar give me a call:cool:
 
Milnoque said:
I play a Heritage H-555 and a G&L ASAT Jr through an old Gibson amp. The two sounds are NOT interchangeable.
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Alright. I knew someone would have something. I'd love to know more about his.

Do you play mostly clean sounds or distortion?

What do you think is more important, amp or guitar?

I've just always felt, with my experience, that you can get a great sound with a great amp and shitty guitar, but it's basically impossible to get a great sound with a shitty amp and amazing guitar.

How do you feel?

I'm just curious so I can understand more.



Milnoque said:
ESP makes some fine affordable humbucker guitars
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+1 to ESP guitars.

I've had an ESP f-100 for 4 years. Can't get enough of it.

Roguetitan said:
However...
if you are wanting a high end custom built guitar give me a call:cool:
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Do you really do that? I'm definitely interested. I mean. Not in the near future. But I'd definitely want to know some info about that.
 
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Go and play some guitars in a pawn shop or the 2nd hand section of a few music shops.
Most people are right in their descriptions of guitars & their sounds BUT if you're jsut moving into electric guitar you'll, as has been mentioned, develop yournown sound - nothing worse that deciding on a Steve Vai axe & then getting home & finding the axe doesn't have the sound - the rig & amp are needed.
Are was pointed out decide single or humbucker - huge diff there - & buy something cheap but cheerful & work it out. You'd choke if you saw the 2nd handish, knock off design, original but odd, beginners end of the market stuff I play - BUT I do have A SOUND based on a guitar & a set up - not one that anyone would care to cop but certainly recognisable.
Actually go to this link & you'll catch a glimpse - just be sure to have a chunder or chuckle bag handy.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=188076881
You'll have to wait until about 1/2 way through the silde show - after the drawings & before the possums & Bower Birds.
 
elenore19 said:
What do you think is more important, amp or guitar?

I've just always felt, with my experience, that you can get a great sound with a great amp and shitty guitar, but it's basically impossible to get a great sound with a shitty amp and amazing guitar.
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Two different issues here. I agree that an OK guitar with a nice amp will work well, and that any combination of guitars and awful amp is hopeless. This is different than saying "the sound comes from the amp," even though it is technically true. A Tele in the classic configuration is never going to have the beefy roar you can get from a Les Paul, or the liquid sustain you get from a superstrat, the bloop you can get from a hollowbody, etc. You can twiddle knobs and approximate, but you won't get one guitar to sound the same as another, even different pickups of the same style, in the same guitar sound very different.
 
ermghoti said:
Two different issues here. I agree that an OK guitar with a nice amp will work well, and that any combination of guitars and awful amp is hopeless. This is different than saying "the sound comes from the amp," even though it is technically true. A Tele in the classic configuration is never going to have the beefy roar you can get from a Les Paul, or the liquid sustain you get from a superstrat, the bloop you can get from a hollowbody, etc. You can twiddle knobs and approximate, but you won't get one guitar to sound the same as another, even different pickups of the same style, in the same guitar sound very different.
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Alright. Makes sense. Thanks! It's a good thing to know. Learning is fun.

Roguetitan said:
:confused:No I was not being sarcastic I was just winking
Linky
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Holy crap man. VERY impressive! Out of my budget. At least for a while. But maybe in the future! Very amazing. Bravo.
 
elenore19 said:
Do you play mostly clean sounds or distortion?
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I adjust my sound to the needs of the song. The song always comes first. I usually find myself on the clean end of the spectrum. What I would call crunchy isn't as crunchy as some people prefer. My favorite setting is usually just after the tubes start to go into compresion. Be advised, crunch covers up alot of sins. Playing with alot of distortion all the time will inhibit your growth as a guitarist. Sure is fun though.

elenore19 said:
What do you think is more important, amp or guitar? I've just always felt, with my experience, that you can get a great sound with a great amp and shitty guitar, but it's basically impossible to get a great sound with a shitty amp and amazing guitar.
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I'm not being sarcastic here. Your fingers are more important than your gear. Tone comes from your fingers first. Everything else is less important.

After that it's a tough call. I'll go with the guitar. It is your mechanical interface with the sound you generate. If it doesn't feel right in your hands, or make the sound you hear in your head, you'll always know you're covering something up. Do not confuse expensive with good. There are plenty of great, reasonably priced guitars out there. Alot of good players on this site have gotten great mileage out of Squires and the like. Have fun and play a bunch of guitars before you decide.

Think of it like this, When you sing, which is more important, your lungs, or your larynx?

Too many players are a good setup away from having great tone and don't even realize it.

The time to select an amp is after you select the guitar. Some amps and some guitars just don't play together that well. Try the amps that interest you with your guitar. IMHO that's the best way to get a combination that will suit you for a while. That being said, you are right, a shitty amp is a plague on the earth. Nothing sounds good through it.
 
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Milnoque said:
I adjust my sound to the needs of the song. The song always comes first. I usually find myself on the clean end of the spectrum. What I would call crunchy isn't as crunchy as some people prefer. My favorite setting is usually just after the tubes start to go into compresion. Be advised, crunch covers up alot of sins. Playing with alot of distortion all the time will inhibit your growth as a guitarist. Sure is fun though.
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Yeah, sure is fun. :D
Milnoque said:
I'm not being sarcastic here. Your fingers are more important than your gear. Tone comes from your fingers first. Everything else is less important.
Yeah, I definitely realize that if you can't play well, then you can't get a good sound. Period.
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I've been really getting into playing with cleans lately, and I could see where a guitar would be WAY different than another guitar when using clean channels. Just the difference between my p90 single coil and my seymour-duncan humbucker is ridiculous. So yeah, I definitely know where you're coming from.
Milnoque said:
After that it's a tough call. I'll go with the guitar. It is your mechanical interface with the sound you generate. If it doesn't feel right in your hands, or make the sound you hear in your head, you'll always know you're covering something up. Do not confuse expensive with good. There are plenty of great, reasonably priced guitars out there. Alot of good players on this site have gotten great mileage out of Squires and the like. Have fun and play a bunch of guitars before you decide.
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Yeah, I definitely know what you mean by there are a lot of great guitars for reasonable prices. I've had the same guitar for years, I don't want to get a new one because I feel that anything else I play will not live up to this one. It's fantastic. It was $300.
Milnoque said:
Think of it like this, When you sing, which is more important, your lungs, or your larynx?
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Nice analogy(sp?). Definitely makes more sense.


This info is fantastic. Thanks man. (even though this isn't my thread)
Thanks.
 
The Crate is nice, I personally prefer the Peavey Bandit.
Try both if possible, they both create a variety of sounds.

An Epi LP is a good buy also. I have had a 56 Gold Top for a few years and love it. Just make sure you buy a decent case for it. A gig bag will let you down in time.

Give craigslist a try, there is a TON of used gear on there every day!


Good Luck
 
Milnoque said:
After that it's a tough call. I'll go with the guitar.
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Well, yeah, but... you can buy a reasonable excuse for an electric guitar for a little under $200 (I just did: an Xaviere X-700 blemish). The market for decent $300 amps is pretty small, I'd lean towards spending $200-250 on the guitar, the balance on the amp. A Peavey Classic, a Traynor, Laney, Carvin or a forgotten gem like a red knob Twin, and a cheap Asian workhorse will get you a lot farther than a LTD or Highway 1 and a $100 combo. IMO/YMMV.
 
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