EVH Tuning in Guitar World

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Flamin Lip said:
Here is how stretched Eddies tuning has gotten:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4&feature=related
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I can't do youtube here at work; is that the one of "Jump" with EVH way out of tune from the keyboard backing track? Opinions vary on what happened there; some think it was a sampling rate snafu on the backing track, others say Eddie's tremelo lost a spring, a few say his guitar tech sabotaged him. Whatever happened, IMO they should have stopped and had a good laugh while whatever the prob was was remedied, and then started the song over.
 
I just tune to the record. It's kinda like half way between e flat and d with the b string dropped for most of the early stuff. then of course things like Jamies Cryin drops the high E as well, and then Unchained that drops the D blah blah. Once you figure out what he is doing it sounds right.
 
muttley600 said:
Why would you think he's an idiot? And why would you ask me to confirm it?

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Well although I read most of your posts, I don't understand some of them So if you started with, I dunno, something like "What a crock of shit!...." At least then I'd know what the gist is :o

The only relationship I know of between piano playing/tuning and guitar playing/tuning is what I heard from Eric Johnson who starts by tuning his G string, then D, then B, then A, then high E, then low E. His reasoning made sense to me...if you tune a piano, you don't start at the far left and work your way across.
 
I heard that that was an incorrect sampling rate, some jobs were lost that night over that one.
 
TelePaul said:
Well although I read most of your posts, I don't understand some of them So if you started with, I dunno, something like "What a crock of shit!...." At least then I'd know what the gist is :o

The only relationship I know of between piano playing/tuning and guitar playing/tuning is what I heard from Eric Johnson who starts by tuning his G string, then D, then B, then A, then high E, then low E. His reasoning made sense to me...if you tune a piano, you don't start at the far left and work your way across.
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You should just say so and I'd try and explain them better.;)

The essence of what we are talking about here is explained very well in that link I keep banging on about. Have you read and understood that? Because as a guitarist who just wants to play with other musicians or record with other instruments thats really all you need to understand. The rest is just the theory of it and explanations of why we are where we are.

I'd be happy to try and explain any of it for you more clearly if I can.

First thing to do is stop thinking piano playing/tuning or guitar playing/tuning. It's all just about the actual relationship between the notes themselves and it applies to any instrument.

Maybe I should do a simple set of definitions and explanations. I'm used to teaching degree students this stuff so I forget that maybe not everyone has the same level of background. My bad!!
 
I wonder if this is why I love acapella singing so much.
 
Obi-Wan zenabI said:
I wonder if this is why I love acapella singing so much.
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I love all unaccompanied choral and vocal music precisely because if done right the intervals are as near perfect as we can get them and self adjusting. It is amazing the difference a true fifth or fourth sounds when you hear them played true, as opposed to tempered intervals. To me it's one of those things that just make the "hairs on the back of the neck" thing.

You don't have to wade through the whole article but there are some precise if uninspiring sound samples on this page that demonstrate the differences that we are talking about.

For real life examples, explore any choral music, especially choirs like the Tallis scholars. I love all music but this has something "essentially" pure about it.

This one too, worth listening to if only to hear the pure intervals.

How on earth did we get from EVH to renaissance church music?? I guess because it's all good. I just love the process of moving air..
 
muttley600 said:
I love all unaccompanied choral and vocal music precisely because if done right the intervals are as near perfect as we can get them and self adjusting.
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You're in good company; James Joyce, apparently, loved choral music for the same reason.

He was shit guitarist, by all accounts, though.
 

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32-20-Blues said:
You're in good company; James Joyce, apparently, loved choral music for the same reason.

He was shit guitarist, by all accounts, though.
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You got me on both counts then.;)

You got a reference for that I'd be interested to read about his views on this.
 
muttley600 said:
You got me on both counts then.;)

You got a reference for that I'd be interested to read about his views on this.
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I'll have to dig it up for you - it was mentioned in a seminar I attended recently. He even includes a line or two of Gregorian chant that he notated himself in Ulysses.
 
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