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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
I'm not at home at the moment so I'll take a listen to yours and Fishmeds later tonight or tomorrow if I run outta time today.
BushmasterM4
Well-known member
Nice to have a good stereo system, isnt it ? Ive got a vintage Sansui 9090db and Polk Monitor 10's (4). Stuff is 30 years old and kicks ass. They dont make it like they use to. My receiver weighs in around 45lbs and my Pioneer PL-5 turntable is about 15 lbs.
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
Sounds good and well balanced. The reverb on the vocals is a little wet to the point that it sounds like reverb on the vocals.WOW!!! Lots of great mixes. This is going to be a tough one for the judges.
Thanks NL5 for the awesome tracks.
Well after much slaving over them, here is my:
Final Mix
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
Sure is nice. The jbl's make a big difference too.
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
I gave it another listen and what I was hearing was about 2:20 into the song you push the verb on the vocals. After listening again I'm sure you did it on purpose but it just sorta sticks out.
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mrface2112
Well-known member
wow, as usual, i'm 2 weeks behind man. just grabbed the tracks, should be able to give it some poking with a pointy stick over the holidays.
thanks again for making these available......i really need to pop in here more often.
cheers,
wade
thanks again for making these available......i really need to pop in here more often.
cheers,
wade
Sonixx
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ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Thanks. I get the bit you are talking about, its a bit past 2:20. Just before the break down. I doulbed the backing vox and panned and nudged them, and automated the reverb gain and the delay.
I like it.
Anyone not like this effect I did?
Cheers,
Eck
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
First thing that jumps out instantly is its pretty high end heavy.
Cymbals have too much shimmer, snare sounds funny to me, it sounds fuzzy some how. Maybe you compressed the bottom snare mic a good deal?
The distorted guitars are a bit grainy and harsh at times.
The toms sound funny. Sounds like you've not put a gate on the toms or edited the toms. I tend to edit the toms and create (unnatural) fade outs so the toms resonance doesn't interfere with the rest of the mix.
Levels are nicely balanced, and the panning is not bad, but the overall tone I'm not digging. Sorry if I seem pretty harsh, but I'm just being honest in my opinions.
Whats your monitor set up? that could be the problem
ps. Reminds me of a Faith No More mix overall tone balance. That kinda 80s sound.
Eck
Sonixx
New member
thanks...
I believe your mix is top lite and bottom heavy/thick and bouncing against several commercial mixes confirms this. I trust my tuned environment and have mixed in it for years.
I don't know your environment or system, but possibly it's bright (hi energy summation due to early reflections) causing darker mixes.
A rule of thumb is a 3db/octave bottom to top slope your mix runs at about 4 to 4.5db with a significant drop above 5K
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
I agree with you that compared to commercial mixes I have alot of low mids and low end. I went for this approach from advice on here pretty much. Commercial mixes don't have much low mids. The 1st quick mix I did (only mixed part of the song) was what I initally thought would be best since it sounded closer to a commercial release with not much in the low mids.
I'm confused, should I make my mix cleaner with less low and low mids so its more like a commercial mix?
I'm afraid I will get told that my mix is thin after mixing it how I really want it to sound like.
I think I might keep this last mix and also do another more commercial mix.
The high end thing comes down to taste. Comparing to commercial mixes like The Lost Prophets I have plenty highs. Comparing your mix to say Faith No More (80s stuff) then you have plenty highs.
I prefer my highs to be alot less then Faith No More mixes.
Its personal taste.
Eck
Sonixx
New member
I have no recommendations on your mix other than mix on a system that you trust and mix to your taste.
FWIW, one other observation is your mix seems one dimensional and has minimal depth.
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Yeah I do trust my system very well.
Can you explain more what you mean by my mix being 1 dimensional and having minmum depth? Maybe cause there are alot of low mids it not seem as wide a mix but alot of the tracks are hard panned.
Cheers,
Eck
Sonixx
New member
depth is front/back not left/right.
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
I'm pretty aware of what depth is, but you said my mix was 1 dimmensional which doesn't make sense unless my mix was in mono.
What do you usually do to get depth? Add delays/reverbs, EQ, dymanics? what else?
Eck
Vaquero Verbal
Custom Title User
So here is my try ........
Great recording and a great song.... thanks for the music !!!
Dirk
Great recording and a great song.... thanks for the music !!!
Dirk
Sonixx
New member
hm, EQ and Reverb. I seldom use Delay other than on Guitar Leads or for special affect.
ecktronic
Mixing and Mastering.
Cool.
You'd be surprised that using delays on rhythm guitars can add depth pretty nicely. Also by only adding delay to 1 side of the rhythm or using differing amounts of delay on the sides can add something different to a mix which can work real nice.
If I'm adding delay to rhythm guitars I tend to use alot of delay automation and always watch the delay tails when the guitars stop playing.
Eck
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jonathanmitchel
jonathansblog.co.uk
lol
i still think my late 70's style mix is the best...
i still think my late 70's style mix is the best...
Sonixx
New member
I'm not saying I've never tried any of these but that I seldom use delays in the form to which you're referring.