Just be "real" people

[jjones1700]

I am new to this board. Is it illegal to have an auction for analog equipment and also have a picture of an african american wonem in a suggestive pose? I am wondering why Beck reported the auction to ebay? I am sure the lady is not for sale. Then I can see someone running to Ebay about this,

I don't think it had anything to do with the woman on the equipment. It had to do with the fact that the seller never had any feedback or history, and then all of a sudden decides to sell a (supposedly) $50,000 setup. Sounds like a sellers account was hijacked. Put the pieces together man, don't make wild assumptions off the wisecracks in here. The talk of the woman on the console was just about trying the "sex sells" approach to unloading something on ebay.

 

[Beck]

I am new to this board. Is it illegal to have an auction for analog equipment and also have a picture of an african american wonem in a suggestive pose? I am wondering why Beck reported the auction to ebay? I am sure the lady is not for sale. Then I can see someone running to Ebay about this,

First of all, she's not African American.

More importantly, I reported the listing as suspicious… probably stolen account. It has nothing to do with the photos.

It has typical signs of a bogus listing and violates several eBay rules:

1. The seller has this listed as a straight auction starting at $25,000 with no reserve. However he states $50,000 for both in the description. The seller is violating eBay rules on avoiding eBay fees.

2. The seller provides phone and email contact info for people to make offers outside of the eBay system.

3. Number 1 & 2 plus the outrageous opening bid, and the lack of activity on the 6-year-old account are all typical of a stolen account. Do you have any idea what the listing fee would be for a $25,000 opening bid if the seller intended to pay it?

The seller is using eBay as free advertising. He expects people to make contact and finalize any deal through the provided phone and email. He won’t pay the listing fee. If anyone is both wealthy and stupid enough to deal with this seller it’s unlikely they will get anything for their money but a thank you note from Nigeria or Indonisia.

If I'm among only two or three people able to notice these things, undistracted by the chick in the pic, it’s a good thing I reported the listing, isn’t it?

I wish more people would report suspicious listings. eBay doesn’t end a listing just because it’s been reported. They examine the listing before making a decision. I’ve reported more of these types of listings than I can remember over the years; nearly all of them ended by eBay Trust and Safety if reported in time.

 

[poopchute]

Yep,
Your right Beck. I didnt notice that part either. Thanks

 

[Herm]

Morgan its just like you to come in here and stir up a bucket of shit.

Go Home bad boy. And when are we going to do some Jamin?

 

[SteveM]

I don't know what's wrong with you guys?

Maybe you've all been huffing too much 456 or something but some of you sound like outright bigots and racists.

Is there some sort of unspoken agreement here that in order to be an analog enthusiast, one must also posses the racial ideals of your forefathers too?

There's plenty of off topic areas on this BBS to spout your ignorance and hatred. Please keep it out of here.

Cheers!

'


I don't get it? What was said that was racist? Unless you consider Black Market or Prostitute racist.

 

[analog aaron]

Beats me!?? Maybe he thought my "Bling pimp mack daddy" joke was racist??? I have NO clue??? Who knows. It's hard to tell if someone is being sarcastic online maybe?

 

[SteveM]

Yeah, I know. And regardless or whether that chick is supposed to be hot or not, I think the basic point was its lameness as an auction. He's got one very blurry picture of the 24 track and another blurry picture of the console which you can't see anything of because of this chick superimposed over it. Then he's got 0 feedback and his phone number on the details page, which is ridiculous.

 

[Dr ZEE]

Did it ever occur to you that one of her hands may have been in a different position

No it did not.
Not one, but both of her hands have been and I assume still are in the same original position on the original photo. Those hands partially have made their way onto the manipulated image that you now have pleasures to observe and make your rather hilarious assumptions, which is fine with me, as it have made my last night, for which I can only thank you

I guess it's easier for you to assume that the photo is doctored

Nop. It is very hard for me to assume so. And that is why I don't assume so. I know it for a fact. No assumptions here at all. It's a fact.
Speaking of facts, The Fact that I actually have to "argue" over it is not funny, but rather is sad.
And speaking of assumptions, I do foolishly assume that obvious is an obvious and is an obvious, while it is not so, which leads me to a consequential conclusion in respect to the case (the subject of this topic, that is), which is: "NEVER underestimate a criminal!".

So, Jeff, have you make your call with your offer yet?

I guess it's easier for you to ...thinking that the only way to get a young lady into your studio is to photo-shop her into there.

You mean to get her into your studio to lay her ass on top of your few grand worthy mixing board?
If so, then I'd say, for a guy who does not mind somebody's ass resting on top of his few grand worthy mixing board there must be another way for sure - and that is - few hundred bucks out of pocked. I assume there are plenty of individuals like that out there, even though, I don't think that anybody have done such thing ever, regardless of amount of cash in the pocet or elsewhere.
**************
Now, Jeff, just a friendly reminder for you:
Accusing people of being racists right and left when and where ever it feels like is just as ugly as being racist
It also not just ugly, but also is pathetic and extremly anoying as well.
Think about it for a moment.
**************
On a 'sub-subject' of balance.
It's a nice dry sunny day today. But I know that the rainy day is comming. It will be here.
And then, I'll look out the window. And I'll look up at the moving on mass of clouds in the sky, and I'll say: "Here comes the rain".
And then I'll walk out and get my face wet and I'll say: "Rain on me, Rain on"..
And then I'll say: "It IS raining. Truth! - It's The Rain."
And then I will get sad, as I should, cos' it's raining.
And then I'll need someone to come over and do some "balancing" work for me, saying something like: "Hey, dude, It is NOT The Rain, It's just the right time to write a blues"
So, balance this, my friend

/later

 

[Dr ZEE]

clear
double post
/

 

[mikemorgan]

Wow Herm, It just struck me as some funny shit from the world of analogue. I'll go happily back to my daw now.

Listened to some 3DK today on the hippie radio. It don't get more analogue than that, eh?

I'll jam any time, but you gotta PM me.

Peace, out, bro!

 

[The Ghost of FM]

blah, blah, blah. blah and even more blah, blah, blah.

Dr ZEE,

It wold be nice if you learned to be more concise with your posts. Honestly, I get a headache trying to read them.

Cheers!

 

[The Ghost of FM]

'


I don't get it? What was said that was racist? Unless you consider Black Market or Prostitute racist.

Assuming that the girl is a prostitute is a racial remark, plain and simple.

You want to deny it? go ahead and deny it but it's still a racist slight.

Cheers!

 

[poopchute]

Why do people in this forum seem to like to bite other posters heads off? It seems like people like to argue in a mean spirited way when another disagrees. I am personally a member of 6-7 different forums on the net and this is by far the worst forum for this. As a matter of fact I wouldnt be suprised if someone told me to go and post in my "other" forums if I dont like it. And thats sad. And even tho I am new to this board I have lurked enough to know this isnt the first time people on this board have done their best to run someone off for dissention(sp).

Dont Hate!

 

[The Ghost of FM]

Beats me!?? Maybe he thought my "Bling pimp mack daddy" joke was racist??? I have NO clue??? Who knows. It's hard to tell if someone is being sarcastic online maybe?

I'm not being sarcastic.

Beck has stated why this auction is of a suspicious nature and did so without any racial overtones. I'm sure he's right in his assumptions about the seller's intent to try and sell the units off ebay to avoid their charges.

But for others here to use this as a platform to throw out the racial slurs that I've witnessed here is inexcusable.

Like I've said already, there are other forums here to fling that kind of shit around. We don't need it here.

Cheers!

 

[Dr ZEE]

Dr ZEE,
It wold be nice if you learned to be more concise with your posts.

Pretending being nice is not the purpose of my posts, Jeff, so I can't help you there.
Also I'm done with learning to express what need to be expressed.

I get a headache trying to read them.

You are not alone You can try to learn how to read them with no haedache though, but I assume that you've done with all your learnings too, so guees we'd have to leave it there.

As for your "racism" crap an b.s., cut it out already, will you? It's pathetic.

/later

 

[The Ghost of FM]

The auction has been removed from ebay.

Good work, Beck!

Cheers!

 

[SteveM]

Assuming that the girl is a prostitute is a racial remark, plain and simple.

You want to deny it? go ahead and deny it but it's still a racist slight.

Cheers!

That's just plain silly.

 

[Slowrider]

Well Ghost, normally I agree with you, but there's nothing racist about prostitution.

Let's give the white prostitutes some credit too.

Those working girls are busy helping mankind every day.

I've had a Black one too, and she didn't mind being called a working girl either.

Prostitution has been around LONG before the word racist, was ever thought about.

 

[Dr ZEE]

I've had a Black one too

Nop. You've had nothin'.
She has had you, as a client, that is , hmmmmmmmmm... - and otherwise, from any angle and in any way you want to spin it, turn it or flip it, that is.
That is so, of course, in case if I may let myself to fantasize that you have not made up the whole story.
**********

P.S. It sure gonna rain some day. I hope so.

/rock on....

/later

 

[cjacek]

To give a bit of balance here and be as objective as I can, at the risk of making enemies perhaps, I think the term "prostitute", I'd bet, was used to describe the rather gross, unflattering and suggestive pose of that female, on a console, in an eBay ad of all places, never mind the color of her skin but I do, however, see how some would view the content above as having racial overtones, ie: "Black Market", "Blingin' pimp-mack-daddy", "bent over" and then "prostitute" to top it all off ..... That is NOT to say, however, that the people who made the comments are racists or bigots, just that some off-hand words were unfortunately peppered throughout. Sometimes we shoot off the hip with little to no preparation or forethought of the consequences but we mean no harm. While it's no excuse for what was said and in what context, this was, plain and simple, an ad-lib, some off the cuff remarks, IMHO. Lets leave it at that.