Power chords Distorted?

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I downloaded the convolver wrapper and convolver filter.
I couldn't seem to add in any convultions though.
I tried adding it to "get confiurer or IR" but it just crashed my DAW. :(

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Cheers,
Eck
 
which convo plug are you using?

SIR is easy to use and works well with short impulses
 
+1 for SIR. it takes a LOT of system resources, though.......so unless you've got a machine with ram and cpu to spare, you'll be best off printing (rendering) the effects to the track (once you've got something you like) rather than running it "realtime" like a VST plugin.

cheers,
wade
 
+1 for SIR. it takes a LOT of system resources, though.......so unless you've got a machine with ram and cpu to spare, you'll be best off printing (rendering) the effects to the track (once you've got something you like) rather than running it "realtime" like a VST plugin.

cheers,
wade
So how would I render a convulsion wave on a recorded track?
I don't get it. :S

Eck
 
Nice one.
I got SIR working.
Pretty cool.
Is it normal to use this type of effect or is it a last used as a last resort mostly?

Eck
 
Besides all the issues listed above, it sounds to me like the converter is being over-ran.
 
So how would I render a convulsion wave on a recorded track?
I don't get it. :S

Eck

I think you might have missed the part where you need the convolution plugin to begin with. You would put the convolution plugin on your track, and then insert the impulse you want to use and it will blend them. If it's reverb you want to achieve, your impulse would be sampled from a real space - if it's a guitar cab sound you want to achieve, your impulse would be captured from a mic'd guitar cab.

edit: nevermind, I missed the responses on page 2.....
 
Besides all the issues listed above, it sounds to me like the converter is being over-ran.

I didn't hear the converter distorting when I was recording. Recorded at quite a low level as well. But I am using a Realtek HD soundcard!

Eck
 
I think you might have missed the part where you need the convolution plugin to begin with. You would put the convolution plugin on your track, and then insert the impulse you want to use and it will blend them. If it's reverb you want to achieve, your impulse would be sampled from a real space - if it's a guitar cab sound you want to achieve, your impulse would be captured from a mic'd guitar cab.

edit: nevermind, I missed the responses on page 2.....

Thanks anyway. :)
You've been a great help.

Eck
 
all this can be avoided in the future by making a split input of the guitar when recording...plug into a DI, run the loz out to your mic pre and in clean, then run the 1/4" split to your regular amp chains and stuff...makes it a LOT easier to edit to

See this video for more

http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Guitar_Tricks_Part_1

its reaper specific but it'll translate fine to other daws
 
pipeline, i think you missed the problem although the clean di trick is pretty handy.
To be honest you would be better off going thought a di box into your soundcard then running a software amp, you would get something much more useful than what you have now.
 
Everythings pretty much been discussed I think. A bit of a sum-up here:

1. What guitar do you have. I love my Gibson Les Paul, but if you want A LOT of distortion the Gibson CAN become muddy, because it has a big sound. In Heavy Metal for instance, where a lot of distortion is used many people play those ultra light Jackson, BC Rich, Ibanez etc. guitars, which give much more clarity with loads of distortion. If you use a Gibson type of guitar I would suggest to use less distortion and play more agressively, hit the strings really hard, it will make up for the lost distortion.

2. A good pedal is a must! In my experience Boss pedals are ussually crap on the distortion front, especially those Metal Distortions. Ibanez Tubescreamer is my choice, but of course that's a matter of taste. The Big Muff pedal is praised by many.

3. A problem solver could be: are you doing three finger or two finger power chords? If you're doing three finger power chords switching to two finger chords could be an option, don't know...

4. If you plug your guitar into the pedal and the pedal dirrectly into your console, then ussually a distorted guitar sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Mic your amp, or use a pre-amp.

5. If you are indeed mic-ing your amp, then the possition of your microphone is very important and even the room in which you record, or the possition of your amp in that room is important. Trial and error.
 
all this can be avoided in the future by making a split input of the guitar when recording...plug into a DI, run the loz out to your mic pre and in clean, then run the 1/4" split to your regular amp chains and stuff...makes it a LOT easier to edit to

See this video for more

http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Guitar_Tricks_Part_1

its reaper specific but it'll translate fine to other daws

Yeah I was thinking of splitting the signal when we get to the stage of recording properly. I was thinking splitting the signal when recording dist guitars, using the Mesa Dual Rectifier for distortion, and using the Marshall DSL50 for clean.
I was thinking of mixing the 2 together, so I had a clean guitar and a heavy guitar for the distorted parts, so it would still be heavy, but would bring out each string more with the clean track.

Cheers,
Eck
 
Everythings pretty much been discussed I think. A bit of a sum-up here:

1. What guitar do you have. I love my Gibson Les Paul, but if you want A LOT of distortion the Gibson CAN become muddy, because it has a big sound. In Heavy Metal for instance, where a lot of distortion is used many people play those ultra light Jackson, BC Rich, Ibanez etc. guitars, which give much more clarity with loads of distortion. If you use a Gibson type of guitar I would suggest to use less distortion and play more agressively, hit the strings really hard, it will make up for the lost distortion.

2. A good pedal is a must! In my experience Boss pedals are ussually crap on the distortion front, especially those Metal Distortions. Ibanez Tubescreamer is my choice, but of course that's a matter of taste. The Big Muff pedal is praised by many.

3. A problem solver could be: are you doing three finger or two finger power chords? If you're doing three finger power chords switching to two finger chords could be an option, don't know...

4. If you plug your guitar into the pedal and the pedal dirrectly into your console, then ussually a distorted guitar sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Mic your amp, or use a pre-amp.

5. If you are indeed mic-ing your amp, then the possition of your microphone is very important and even the room in which you record, or the possition of your amp in that room is important. Trial and error.

Cheers man.
For the recording at hand I used my PRS McCarty Soapbar which sounds kinda like a mix of a Gibson Les Paul and a Fender Strat in the way that it has nice body like the Les, but also has nice definition like the Strat.

We have a decent selection of guitars, so its probably a good idea we experiment with all the guitars to get the right sound. We have a number of Fenders, Gibson Les Paul, Epiphone, Ibanez, PRS

Ill post something when I get a chance to do some real recordings. :)
Cheers,
Eck
 
Yeah I was thinking of splitting the signal when we get to the stage of recording properly. I was thinking splitting the signal when recording dist guitars, using the Mesa Dual Rectifier for distortion, and using the Marshall DSL50 for clean.
I was thinking of mixing the 2 together, so I had a clean guitar and a heavy guitar for the distorted parts, so it would still be heavy, but would bring out each string more with the clean track.

Cheers,
Eck

In that case, I'd split it three ways...I would still want a completely untouched DI, not going thru an amp of any sort, which can always be reamped or whatever as if it were a live take.
 
In that case, I'd split it three ways...I would still want a completely untouched DI, not going thru an amp of any sort, which can always be reamped or whatever as if it were a live take.

Yeah I might aswell use 3 then :)
I have a Boss splitter box that can handle 3 outputs I'm sure.

Cheers,
Eck
 
A lot better (but I love reverb)
sounds a lot heavier and is missng a lot of fizz though i'm hearing through small speakers so the low end isn't showing up very well
 
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