The Anonymous Cracked Software Poll?

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Do You Use Pirated Software for "Try B4 Buy?"

  • yes

    Votes: 164 55.8%

  • no

    Votes: 130 44.2%
  • Total voters
    294
Ssscientist What?

Hey SSScientist,

You make a good point but is it necessary to use profanities? NO!


E.V.
 
I chimed in on a similar post one time before... Here were my thoughts then...and now...

This is just an observation... I'm not accusing anybody... just an observation...


I read quite a few recording forums... I've seen this topic raised many times. Below is an observation I've made on many different forums:

For instance, we'll call a particular forum poster, "Poster1"... Poster1 will post in this type of thread that he hates piracy. Pirates should be jailed. He owns all of his software... Most all of the Waves stuff, Antares Auto Tune, plus many more...Sometimes into and above the $5K range just in plugins...

If you 'keep up' with the forums, and I do, usually at one time or the other, either in a previous post or later, you'll see this same "Poster1" complaining about wanting to buy a cheaper piece of gear, say in the $300 range... Saying, it may take 6 months or so, but he'll save up and buy it... Or saying that he'd sure like to have 'that new mic pre', but $1000 is WAY, WAY out of "Poster1's" range and he'll have to settle for the mic pre in the $200 range...

Just seems odd to me, that when discussing recording equipment, it's always the hardware that seems to be out of most posters price range...(maybe because it can't be pirated...) but they 'rightfully own' all those plugins... Just makes me wander how many forum posters who are critical on piracy, acutally have/use pirated software...but are in denial about their own wrongs...

At the same time rate it took to 'save-up' to buy that $300 piece of hardware, it would have taken 15 years to 'save-up' to legally own those plugins... Just don't make sense to me...


One more thought: When you "BUY" software, you're not actually "BUYING" it... Only a license to use it.
 
Zetajazz44 said:
One more thought: When you "BUY" software, you're not actually "BUYING" it... Only a license to use it.
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Touché One thinks one owns the software, but read the fine print and the word "license"

Same goes with any software. Even FREEWARE. You got permission to use it, but not copy, re-distribute etc.
 
the money lost by software companies (which is in fact the real money that was stolen) only happens when a person who was willing and could afford the software chooses to use pirate software instead. All the other peniless students and musicians out there using pirate software cannot make a difference to the software companies balance sheets ....in fact a lot of companies would be worried if their software wasnt on the crack market as this is part of their market share campaign.

If the software companies really want to make it hard to crack then go back to dongles and watch your competitors steal your user base from under your nose.

Sorry guys but the "thou shalt not steal" was written in a simpler time before digital and before advertising really took a hold.
 
zazz said:
Sorry guys but the "thou shalt not steal" was written in a simpler time before digital and before advertising really took a hold.
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That's one of the most rediculous arguments I've heard for pirating software.

If I follow your logic then I'm going to get to work right away on an invisiblity potion. That way I can walk into the store of my choice and steal the gear of my choice with impunity, simply because invisibility wasn't a capability that existed when Moses supposedly got the 10 commandments from God.

How do technological differences bewteen then and now have anything to do with being a coward and stealing something because it's easy and you "know" you won't get caught. I'll start listening to peoples weak and just plain stupid argument for software piracy when they grow some balls and begin stealing their guitars, amps, keyboards, computers, cars, etc. Until someone, ANYONE, grows those kinds of balls then all the arguments they offer are simply rationalizing them being a coward.
 
"If I follow your logic then I'm going to get to work right away on an invisiblity potion. That way I can walk into the store of my choice and steal the gear of my choice with impunity, simply because invisibility wasn't a capability that existed when Moses supposedly got the 10 commandments from God."

You obviously didnt follow my logic......
 
wow...cool jump from technology to theology. somehow it works ;) . so, what you're sayin' is, if you didn't pay for it and the rightful owner didn't gift it to you, it's not yours for the taking...hmmm. I think you're on to something here.
 
I voted yes, although I refuse to take advantage of pirated products if I don't plan on purchasing legitimate versions at a later date. I know that this doesn't make it okay, and I don't like it either. My feelings on the situation is that it's a wrong that's being committed in good taste, and it's a shame that this viewpoint is rare.
 
This thread is so inspiring - I think I'm going to go download every single piece of pirated audio software out there. :p

Not.


I've got N-track & Audacity.
I bought N-track, and it seems to me to be the best and easiest to use of any of these programs - and at a price of around $40 or so, there's no justification of stealing it.

I bacially use Audacity to clean up stuff before I burn a CD.



Tim
 
The types of programs I stick to usually offer a free downloadable demo. In the real world it only takes a few hours of overtime to buy something that is "oh so expensive" get off your asses and do something constructive imo. :rolleyes:
 
if you are truly using it as try before you buy, when there is no proper demo available, theres no moral qualm there
 
i don't know, just found it and thought i'd throw in an opinion.

btw i happen to know cpr... heh heh
 
I use demo stuff myself. I will tell one insane story though:
My wife bought a CD of love songs. The pictures all over the CD packaging showed the stars from the filme the songs were taken from. The listing of the movies, who sang what etc. was there. A great packaging for sure. She opened the CD and played it. All songs were re-recorded by some hack orchestra, no vocals. I brought it back and they would not refund her $$$. This was totally false advertising. The manager said he could not return it because it violates the law. He was right. So, if I buy a software package that does this, I give it away for free to everyone everywhere. Otherwise, good honest companies deserve to make their money. Scammers deserve to have their product available for free all over the planet.

Oh, this goes for the scumbags who :
1. hi-jack my computer
2. Force me to buy their malware programs by popping up a windows menue telling me my computer is infected and
3. Forcing me to wipe my drive and re-build my system.

They get my $$$ (if cheap enough) and I send it all over the world for free.
 
i don't really understand how you're story relates... it's just going over my head for some reason. Like what do you mean by "if i buy software that does this..." etc?
 
MCI2424 said:
Oh, this goes for the scumbags who :
1. hi-jack my computer
2. Force me to buy their malware programs by popping up a windows menue telling me my computer is infected and
3. Forcing me to wipe my drive and re-build my system.

They get my $$$ (if cheap enough) and I send it all over the world for free.
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So for companies who use destructive marketing tactics, you spite them by
#1: Buying their product
#2: Sharing their product with other people?
Yeah, you're really teaching them a lesson.
 
tojo said:
i don't really understand how you're story relates... it's just going over my head for some reason. Like what do you mean by "if i buy software that does this..." etc?
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1. I buy software that is misrepresented (like the CD example above)
2. I open it
3. I can't return it because it does not do what they said it would do
4. I am stuck with it.

Make sense?

The law says you cannot return music, software etc. if it is opened. Read all of your software literature and you will see that if you open it, install it, and don't agree with their lkicensing, close it and return it to the store. Except this is told to you INSIDE the package and you don't find out until AFTER you OPEN the thing. You think this is right? Next time you install some software, actually read the licensing agreement. By the time you read it, you just bought it and are stuck with it no matter what it does, works or not and they know it.
 
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