tilinmyowngrave
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Is there any place where you can buy Bubinga drum shells? Lke the Drum Maker website, except that sells bubinga shells?
tilinmyowngrave said:Is there any place where you can buy Bubinga drum shells? Lke the Drum Maker website, except that sells bubinga shells?
Tim Brown said:I doubt it. Bubinga is EXTREMELY expensive. Usually, they just use it as an outer ply for the finish, or like Brady Drums - they might make a snare out of it...but those are so expensive that it's really not worth purchasing it.
Here's the key to buying or building a drumkit:
Look at the environment you are going to be using the drum in, and then buy accordingly. It really doesn't make much sense to purchase a $10,000 drumkit to use in a 300 capacity bar 3 or 4 nights per week. The people in the audience won't be able to tell the difference between it and a Pearl Forum....half of them are just there to drink anyway....and listen to renditions of the songs they just listened to on the radio a few hours before while driving home.
Prime example:
My bass player played in this band that had a HUGE following called Wile E. Peyote.
They had all these songs about saving the earth, and how the Native Americans got screwed...all these songs about social issues.
And they had this one poppy, comedy song called "Dog D*ck".
I'll give you one guess as to what song the audience wanted to hear.
He and I were talking one night about it...he told me "I put all this work into writing these socially conscious songs hoping I could make a difference in the way people thought, and all they ever wanted to hear was a song about a freaking dog's d*ck!" (The song was about a shirt one of the band member's bought that had a picture of a real German Shepherd imprinted on it, and the dog's wang was visible....they all thought it was a funny shirt so they wrote this song, and the chorus went:
Dog D*ck,
It's on a T-shirt I saw!
Dog D*ck,
It's on the T-shirt I bought!
All the people in the audience would sing along to the Chorus, and I'll bet they could have played that song over and over, all night, and the drunks would have loved it.
I don't know how well that translates in this situation, but I got to tell you about a song called "Dog D*ck" anyway!
The point is - don't throw your money away on stuff that is overkill. Because every single musician alive will have the "dog d*ck song" experience at some point. If you really want a decent kit - purchase a midline kit wih Maple or Birch shells, invest in a great kick pedal, good heads, decent hardware, and the best cymbals you can buy. Because ultimately, in a club, a drumkit is a drumkit.... they generally all sound the same once "bob the tin-eared soundman" gives you his "special bar room mix" that he gives everybody else.
Tim
TravisinFlorida said:who the hell would want to play for a bunch of drunk bastards requesting shit like freebird over and over? i have never understood how bar bands can do it.
I M Green said:That's why I stopped carrying an eight piece kit with about a dozen cymbals to the hotel lounge. Now I just lug a four or five piece kit with two cymbals stands. It took me a decade to wake up though.
Iain
Tim Brown said:Tell me about it.
Back in 1985, I was doing "Van Halen jr". carrying four 24" Slingerland Kicks with 6 mounted toms, 3 floors, a few simmons pads, and every single cymbal I could scavenege! It took me over an hour to set all that crap up.
I finally cut the kit down to the bare minmum that I need -w hich is 1 rack, 2 floors, and two kicks. If I could find a Double Pedal that actually FELT like two kicks to me - I'd go with one kick drum, but I still prefer the feel of the two drums....which, really doesn't take up anymore space than if I were using the double pedal because my foot spacing would be the same - it's just a pain to carry it. LOL
Tim
Ain't it the truth brother?! It's like all these classic rock bands that write new songs and release new albums and nobody cares! Take AC/DC for example. Know one wants to hear new shit, Everyone wants to hear "Hells Bells" "Highway To Hell" "YSMANL" "TNT" "Let There Be Rock" "Back IN Black" ect ect. All the old bands have to deal with that. I saw ZZ Top in June and they played some new stuff that was great but nobody cared. They all wanted to hear the 3 big hits off Eliminator, the 3 hits off Tres Hombres, Cheap Sunglasses, I'm bad I'm Nationwide, Pearl Necklace ect. They played a song from their first record and nobody reconized it exept me!Tim Brown said:Even if you are playing all originals, you're still playing to a room half filled with drunks....sadly these gigs usually don't draw as many people as cover bands because most people want to hear music they already know.
Tim
tilinmyowngrave said:Is there any place where you can buy Bubinga drum shells? Lke the Drum Maker website, except that sells bubinga shells?
ez_willis said:A friend of a friend sells bubinga shells by the sea shore. And the shells she sells are surely bubinga shells. Since she sells shells by the sea shore, I'm sure the shells she sells are bubinga shells.
yikes that's a lot. there's something to be said for the fact that it ONLY took you an hour to set that up. that's a testament to repetitive action.Tim Brown said:Tell me about it. Back in 1985, I was doing "Van Halen jr".
TravisinFlorida said:who the hell would want to play for a bunch of drunk bastards requesting shit like freebird over and over? i have never understood how bar bands can do it.
TravisinFlorida said:funny i said that. i played with a bar band a year later.