HR Members guitar design and build thread

CMunch said:
Neck through is sposed to be more stable and allow easier access to upper frets.
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Not sure I agree there. Neck thru theoretically has the disadvantage of the centre warping or pulling beyond the truss rod.. Once that happens it is fubar to a large degree. However if done properly and using a laminate construction that problem can be minimised. One of the main problems with thru necks is that any repairs to badly adjusted neck sets or twisted necks is costly. I wouldn't agree that they have more sustain than a set neck which is a common belief.

Each design has it's pro's and cons. None is "better" or "worse". I quite like the idea of thru necks with a top plate on them because it hides the thru neck and helps add strength where the truss rod ends. I also like the compact solution of tenoning the body section part into a one piece body either from in front or behind. Theoretically you should get much of any perceived advantages of a thru neck with added stability without adding the cost or weight of a cap. Most solutions will work if you do them well.
 
muttley600 said:
Not sure I agree there. Neck thru theoretically has the disadvantage of the centre warping or pulling beyond the truss rod.. Once that happens it is fubar to a large degree. However if done properly and using a laminate construction that problem can be minimised. One of the main problems with thru necks is that any repairs to badly adjusted neck sets or twisted necks is costly. I wouldn't agree that they have more sustain than a set neck which is a common belief.

Each design has it's pro's and cons. None is "better" or "worse". I quite like the idea of thru necks with a top plate on them because it hides the thru neck and helps add strength where the truss rod ends. I also like the compact solution of tenoning the body section part into a one piece body either from in front or behind. Theoretically you should get much of any perceived advantages of a thru neck with added stability without adding the cost or weight of a cap. Most solutions will work if you do them well.
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That's why I said "sposed" multi, I don't really agree with it either, and I wouldn't fancy hacking off wings to do a neck repair. :)
 
CMunch said:
That's why I said "sposed" multi, I don't really agree with it either, and I wouldn't fancy hacking of wings to do a neck repair. :)
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You wouldn't, you route away and scarf a matching piece in it's place. You always try and keep as much of the original as possible as a basic principle, just get rid of the fubar bits.
 
My vote is for a 25" scale bolt on 24 fret neck. These necks are far more rare than any other neck configuration. I tried to find one as a replacement for my Fender HM Strat and they are virtually non-existent.
 
muttley600 said:
Not sure I agree there. Neck thru theoretically has the disadvantage of the centre warping or pulling beyond the truss rod.. Once that happens it is fubar to a large degree. However if done properly and using a laminate construction that problem can be minimised. One of the main problems with thru necks is that any repairs to badly adjusted neck sets or twisted necks is costly. I wouldn't agree that they have more sustain than a set neck which is a common belief.

Each design has it's pro's and cons. None is "better" or "worse". I quite like the idea of thru necks with a top plate on them because it hides the thru neck and helps add strength where the truss rod ends. I also like the compact solution of tenoning the body section part into a one piece body either from in front or behind. Theoretically you should get much of any perceived advantages of a thru neck with added stability without adding the cost or weight of a cap. Most solutions will work if you do them well.
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If we're to that point yet, my vote is "anything but neck-thru." Based on this thread, and that thread from forever ago about set vs. bolt on necks, I don't care. I don't see enough reason to have a neck-thru, other than the cool factor. If Mutt just wants to cover it up to add stability, what's the point?
 
Cool I like all the choices so far... Are we going to pick wood and body type and stuff? This is pretty cool.
 
theD1CKENS said:
If we're to that point yet, my vote is "anything but neck-thru." Based on this thread, and that thread from forever ago about set vs. bolt on necks, I don't care. I don't see enough reason to have a neck-thru, other than the cool factor. If Mutt just wants to cover it up to add stability, what's the point?
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I don't like the look of them so I guess that is part of the reason I'd like a cap on there. There is nothing inherently wrong with the design but it can be a pia to put right if and when things do go wrong. Many basses still use neck thru as standard with no problem but I would always recommend some sort of laminated construction to give it stability. Not long ago I did a five string bass with a five piece laminate thru neck. Came out fine.
 

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arcadeko said:
Cool I like all the choices so far... Are we going to pick wood and body type and stuff? This is pretty cool.
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We is gonna pick everything. All in good time..:)

Are you going to vote on scale length and neck join? The more the merrier...
 
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1 1/2 HOURS TO GO AND THE VOTING STANDS AS FOLLOWS


Scale length

24.75" 3 votes
25.00" 1 votes
25.50" 3 votes

Neck set

Bolt on 1 votes
Set 3 votes
Thru 5 votes

Updated 22/09/2011 11.24am GMT

We need more votes on the scale length. I don't want to have to use the casting vote on this one. If I have to I'm going to base my decision on the reasons given so far by members when voting..:)
 
Just had a proper read and count up of the votes on neck set and scale length. Here is what we have

Gerg - 24.75" - set or thru neck - Playability and solid feel of thru neck, "fuller" sound.

stevieb ------ thru neck - looks cool...

The Mutt - 25" - set neck - personal preference. Set neck. Keeps more later options available.

Lt.B - 25.5" - thru neck. - Likes extra tension of longer scale and increased access to upper positions.

Chili - 24.75" - thru neck. - Into short scale and interested in construction method for possible build.

Milinoque - 25.5" - anything but bolt on. - Extra tension of longer scale.

theDickens - 25.5" - bolt or set - increased access to upper frets.

Cmunch - 24.75 - set neck - Personal preferences.

ocnor - 25" - bolt neck. - Can't find one similar..

That gives us..

Scale length

24.75" - 3 votes
25.00" - 2 votes
25.50" - 3 votes

Neck set ( giving half point for split preference)

Set neck - 3 1/2 votes
Bolt on - 1 1/2 votes
Thru neck - 4 votes

This leaves us with a split decision on 24.75" and 25.5" scale length. I'm going to hold fire on a casting vote for a few hours in case anyone else can drop by with a vote and also to let you all persuade me which way to go.:D

It seems we are going with thru neck for now. But in the light of the scale length split I'll hold that open for a few hours as well.

What do you guys think we should decide on next? Give me something to work with here.
 
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