Brand new reel to reel decks ?

Dr ZEE said:
oh! most definitely, these are couple of "us" :D
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Hey, those guys were at the NAMM show in Chicago -- McCormick Place in '88 (or was it '89?)

They haven't changed (or was it '87?)

I tell people I've been to NAMM... they say I don't seem that old.
 

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Beck said:
Hey, those guys were at the NAMM show in Chicago -- McCormick Place in '88 (or was it '89?)

They haven't changed (or was it '87?)

I tell people I've been to NAMM... they say I don't seem that old.
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Sorry, John ;) , I was not there .... so can't tell.
If i'm not mistaken the dudes photo is fresh .... well, I guess we don't change, it's THEM who get old. :p
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now, John, let's sing together .... tram-tam-tam, trrram-tam-tam :D
 
DR ZEE i know im off topic and dont care

So you think im wrong when i say that music needs certain elements to be made well? Well i will say this, youre not really MAKING anything just sitting and strumming just anything. You may think you are because you hear sound coming out, but it is not "music". Does a chef just combine ingredients randomly? You must like mustard on your ice cream then.

Heres the pitfall that no one seems to be able to avoid in understanding music. You think that inspiration fuels good ideas. You think that being drunk can make a good song? Well youre going to need alot of luck. Just about as much luck as a chef would need to make one good meal out of 1000 attempts by combining random ingredients.

You can pretend that music is all about mystic forces and imaginary concepts. But heres a fact: The human brain processes pitches and intervals by constantly percieving impending resolution. And that resolution is when the ratios of the intervals becomes more simple. Dont let the sound of these words make you shut your brain off because they sound like mumbo jumbo. Everyone knows that a 7th chord points to other chords. Why? Because the 7th chord has ratios within it that the brain wants to be simpler. Every human brain feels this from baby to grandma so pretending to be too hip to understand that music has math behind it is a pointless hindrance to you as a musician. If i am wrong then the music from JAWS is what you should put on to make you feel comfortable and safe and the "Go to sleep" song is what you should put in horror movies when you want the audience to feel suspense.

Hey i guess i should be happy everyone likes rejecting logic and method for beer. But i dont think its hip to purposely stay dumb.
 
And on that note here are some pics for everyone.
 

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Herm said:
And on that note here are some pics for everyone.
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Herm is the Tascam analog division. It never shutdown they just moved to Bloomington. :D
 
Good Friend said:
...i say that music needs certain elements to be made well.
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WOW! ;)

Good Friend said:
...i dont think its hip to purposely stay dumb.
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I think, that trying to run away from being dumb by studying certain elements and/or by presenting a set of obtained understandings of certain elements is waste of time. What's inherent - still will be there and will become evident with or without presentation of understanding of certain elements.

/respects

P.S. If understanding of how great art is being "made" was within the reach of logic, then there would be no need for existence of artists. Instead, all great pieces of "art" would be mass produced at assembly lines.
 
I have to keep reading this whole thread to figure out what we're talking about here.

Dr. Zee - that is a very cool web site you have. How it's categorized and easy to navigate. cool - and cool tunes - maybe I can throw some guitar riffs at ya and do a little collab thing.

This Audio MP3 is a conversation with the band recorded on tascam portastudio, we just always kept it on record from the moment we opened the warehouse. I go through the tapes and convert to MP3 every now and then and put it on the web log.
In the audio the other guitar player shows up and says he left his guitar at the bass player's house the night before, etc. Well you have to hear it to get it.
 
Yeah, that is a cool web site Dr Zee. Unfortunately I can't seem to get anything to play. I get popups that say "invalid file" or something or other. I'm trying to understand what your website is about. Is it all you or other artists you've produced? It's pretty elaborate, interesting.
 
SteveMac said:
I'm trying to understand what your website is about. Is it all you or other artists you've produced? It's pretty elaborate, interesting.
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I went back to Dr. Zee's site
I can get it to play. I like "Wicked Roots" and the 7 minute blues song.
It looks like the site is a single artist with complex computer packaging covering several genres and a ? is that a BBS?
 
Another little analog bump, though small. MF, music 123, AMS all send me catalogs. Makes for good reading in the bathroom though it is usually the same products with sections moved around and different covers for each release. MF this issue actually includes Quantegy 1/4" tape, with 2" (in the plastic case and probably 1/2 or 1" beside that. They advertise 1/4" on 7 or 10.5 reels. Haven't seen reel tape ADVERTISED in the magazine, though always available on their website, for awhile. Maybe the corporation is reacting to a trend they are seeing.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Another little analog bump, though small. MF, music 123, AMS all send me catalogs. Makes for good reading in the bathroom though it is usually the same products with sections moved around and different covers for each release. MF this issue actually includes Quantegy 1/4" tape, with 2" (in the plastic case and probably 1/2 or 1" beside that. They advertise 1/4" on 7 or 10.5 reels. Haven't seen reel tape ADVERTISED in the magazine, though always available on their website, for awhile. Maybe the corporation is reacting to a trend they are seeing.
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I noticed that same thing in Musicians Friend catalog. I was surprised myself but wasn't sure if I had overlooked in the last hundred catalogs.
 
A Reel Person said:
Good Friend: I don't take offense to your statement, (para), "it's for old, fat balding men who covet new shiny objects!",... in fact I think it's comical, but just for the record, I'm neither,... except maybe old (44), but that depends on your perspective. To "Sir George Martin", I'm just a baby who's wet behind the ears. Anyway, to hear you describe yourself as (para) "25 and never having driven a car, but spending 24/7 practically immersed in music,... on vinyl no less",... pegs you as a very, very unique individual. I understand what you're saying and I'm not offended, but you're surely on "your own track" with regard to music and recording.

Dr ZEE: Due to your highly creative way with words, honestly, I hardly ever understand your posts, but as I cited (or seconded) "the future of analog as a cottage boutique industry", I in turn believe that you are one of those technical types of people who could make that happen. I'm surely not, although my tech skills are solidly mid-level. My point was not to say "all hail BRDTS in his wisdom", but the word from actual Tascam reps is that they no longer see a mass market in analog. That's not news, as I believe that's been a general understanding for several years already.

esotericality: I certainly didn't want to knock the young generation or 'puter recording in general, even though 'puter recording isn't attractive to me, and I'm somewhat older now. I was younger too, and I think I understand somewhat the things young people think about. It's just that way back in the "old days" (heh), home recording was a somewhat specialized game for specialists. Now it's anyone's game. Has that improved music? No, but neither has it hurt music. It's just more all-pervasive nowadays. In fact, Microsoft markets it's OS and PC's in general by pumping up an image of "I'm gonna record a big album at home on my PC running Windows",... which of course was unheard of in the early 80's (when I started),... and honestly I find it a somewhat "campy" and comical ad campaign that capitalizes on the desire for "fame" and/or "rock-star syndrome" that's common today. Not to pose it as "us vs. them, young vs. old in the recording-generation gap" or anything of the sort, and no offense to youngsters or oldsters alike!

I held off this thread for as long as I could, but there'ya have it. I certainly feel like my ideas are somewhat relevant, and I hope others do to. I'm not saying in these posts that I'm breaking any "new" ideas to the general public, but maybe just regurgitating common ideas from my own perspective.

Cheers!!
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thats what i eas leading toward, that the market for computer recording is definately capitalizing the desire to be a "rock star", leading more people to believe that since they have a computer, they therefore can become a rockstar. I believe its not what you have in physical objects; the set mentality of what you hope to accomplish and what you and your beliefs in what you can do with your equipment. I mean, its really not about your equipment, as much as it is about the emotion you portray in the soudns you create. I think this all makes sense.....
 
Good Friend said:
But the real reason why is that no one spends the time needed learning how the brain reacts to frequencies. Thats not cool or fast enough. Just buy more shit. Who has the balls to deny this?
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how the brain reacts to frequencys that I hear is basicly the same way my bowels reacts, I lay a huge shit. I had previously ate food. Therefore; you believe that music isnt art because its just sounds the brain perceives is almost the same thing as saying that when you eat food and digest it, that the food did nothing to your body/mind. Simply put, good music is like good food. Listening to a really good heavy metal band might be like eating a whole potatoe raw. Whereas, listening to a certain soft rock song might be like eating a baked potatoe without the skin. I personally think you totally misinterpreted that "Scientific" research you have done, which might be like eating a rotten peach, apple, or grape!!

peace,
 
reel buzzer said:
I have to keep reading this whole thread to figure out what we're talking about here.

Dr. Zee - that is a very cool web site you have. How it's categorized and easy to navigate. cool - and cool tunes - maybe I can throw some guitar riffs at ya and do a little collab thing..
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Jerry, you're helluva'guitarist :cool: ! was skimmin' some of your streams. cool !
now, throwing at me riffs or what have you at the moment would be the same as throwing soybeans at the brick wall and hoping them to stick :)
I don't record/produce anything much at all. I sort of completely lost interest in kind of stuff I used to care about... and nowdays am not really sure what I want to play/record. I am just sitting in the corner, alternating between learning to play pop-church chorals on acoustic guitar and restoring cheap old drums...., and hoping for maybe some day a wild wind will swing some exotic seed over and drop it down on my back-yard's stale soil.... and then I may wait for a few rains and then for a few warm sunny days.... and all that sh*t... so maybe something will grow. I don't know.
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Steve, if you can't play anything at my site - you aren't missing much :). Technically I have there .m3u-links (streaming files links, which should stream-play mp3 files from the server)...and some mp3-d-load links. The files are just mixes of some tracks from what ever "albums" I've produced during past somewhat 10 years or so. And, yeah, it's just me and my dog :D

...thanks , guys for stopping by, btw :)
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reel buzzer said:
.I have to keep reading this whole thread to figure out what we're talking about here..
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I'd say threads like this one are about throwing soybeans at the wall (and at each other from time to time), which, I guess, makes such threads become much more popular than any useful threads with specific subjects. Throwing beans is fun :p
 
haha! that was kind off topic, but I think my point was that I consider a good food as to be art, and that a good food is like good music. therefore; rendering good music to be art, and that I think thats all that really matters!
 
cjacek said:
How did we get from brand new tape decks to "bowels" and laying a "huge shit" ? :confused:
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hah hah... easy.
That's because "brand new tape decks" is a huge hungry wish, while substantially is a "huge ..." :D
 
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