Young Love

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Doesnt sound like country to me Clay.:eek: It sounds more like the male vocalist type stuff from the 70's to me.During the Chorus the Little River band even came to mind.

I wouldnt call it country.It has a better melody than most country does.:D
 
I'll take that as a compliment, kramer. A little bit of country goes a long way with me.
 
Bumpin you up Clay.A lot of people liked your other tunes,maybe they'll weigh in on this one before it slips off the board.;)
 
Hey Clay,

Damn, this is confusing.

That bass on the chorus reaks of country. Some of the lyrics do as well but, your choice in rhythm git and the prominence of the "synth" take the feeling away.

I think you should decide.
If you want country, make the gits go Boom chicka Boom chicka Boom chicka........... and let the current gits fall back to fills and texture. If you want a strick nostalgia(sp?)/story of way back when feel, I'd say loose the country elements and go for more of the melodramatic sound.

The song is very well written. I liked the vocals a whole lot!! And the playing is something to record.

This one is a matter of choosen dircection. You obviously have the talent to define the song as you see fit.:)

Oh...to have such choices......;)


Theron.
 
sounds pretty good man.

the harmonies in the chorus seem a little loud to me.

it doesn't really seem country to me though. seems more like dan folgelberg...type...seals and croft...kinda thing.

i like it.
 
Wow, who cares if its country or not. It's really good. I agree with the others who said it was reminiscent of 70's pop (my personal fave by the way). Your voice awesome. Your guitar playing is great. The chord progression and melody are so sweet, nice nice nice. Yummy string tasties.

My only crit is the drums. The wide panning is distracting, and the overall tone of the drums is a little flat. I'd pan the drums more toward the center, especially the kick and the sidestick/snare. Put some verb on there with a sizeable predelay. Don't go double time on the snare out of the verse. While your at it keep the bass guitar in the center too. I usually love overt panning but this is such a sweet melody and vocal that it distracts.

Holy crap, that C section on the way out is beautiful. I wanna hear more------ go into a solo after that and then reprise it on the final way out.

This one goes in my keeper folder. Do you have any more songs? Please?

Jon
 
I'm listening to Butterflies...

Holy Crap squared... this is a wonderful song. You have a gift for songwriting and arrangement. Your voice is perfect for this genre...very Harry Nilson.

The backing tracks (drums, piano) need more sonic size and depth. Please get a better drum machine, whatever your using just doesn't do justice to the song. I love the harmonica (?) solo, and the Beatlesque pads.

Amazing lyrics. Clever use of major and minor key centers. You're conveying a haunted feeling that has me totally enthralled (I'm on my third listen). If I heard this song on the radio driving through Tennessee or wherever, I would have to pull over, roll down the windows and look up at the sky.

Very Sweet. Love the major chord at the end.

Jon
 
I think I'm giving up on country. Its just not me. I love the critisim of the drums. Do most of you pan the drums to the center? I've always spread them out because I'm thinking everything should have its own slot. Hell, I pan the bass to the left about 11 o'clock usually. What's the rule of thumb? My drum machine is a Korg Triton Pro. Jon, wes, theron and kramer....thanks for the kind words.
 
Jon, how do I add sonic size and depth? Do you mean with reverb or by panning differently or something else? You guys sound like you're in the business and know what your talking about. This is cool. :-)
 
Hi Clay.
Nice to see another 'Cracker' on the board.
I grew up in Titusville, class of 66.
Welcome.

Man, I have been fiddling with a song about just this.

I hear a hint of country, some R&R. Man, you did a good job, the crowded hallway part, brings back the memories.

Good lyrics, music, recording and vocals.
Thanks for sharing.
 
I listened to Butterflies and Young love.

You got a real good mellow sound to both of them. I couldn't offer much mixing advice - I thought you did it very well.

The performances on the tunes was done well too.

I liked the writing of the music - real pretty. My only criticism would be that the lyrics are not too adventureous and a bit trite at times. maybe that's just me.

Good job.
 
I hate country, this has more of a Seals and Croft vibe to it.

I liked it.
 
Clay-

Giving everything their own slot in the mix is a good way to go, in fact, thats the basic principal of a good mix, but there's more than one way to achieve that. Different frequency characteristics of sounds help to seperate them ie a bass guitar won't normally mask a flute. Spacial character also helps to give things their own slot as well, ie a short reverb will bring a vocal out of the mix but a long dense one will set it farther back. And then theres always good ol' volume and panning to give seperation. Try listening closely to some of your favorite recordings (with headphones and speakers) and analyze where things are placed in the stereo field. Rarely in pop music (except some Leslie Gore records) are the drums panned hard left or right. Usually, the drums are panned as if your sitting on the drum throne... Snare, kick in the center, high hat at 9 oclock, cymbals left and right, toms panned from high to low from left to right. Usually you want the bass guitar and kick and snare to work together, this the almighty beat backbone of your song so they should be panned in the same spot. Of course, there are no rules about this, it's just tried and true methods. Also, you should check your mixes in mono... when you have hard pans you'll notice those instruments being to low when you mono out your mix. As far as making your drums sound better, you can try experimenting with adding more verb, but be careful you don't want lots of verb on a kick drum. Again, listen to some of your faves and try to emulate them (as an excercise of course), and then give it your own twist.

Sheesh, I could go on and on...

Jon
 
Jon, your explanation was the best short explanation I've ever read on the subject of mixdown. It totally made sense. I would think that a bass panned exactly with a kick drum would be overbearing, but I'll try it. I like your comment on what reverb does to vocals. You either earn a living doing this or you've got a ton of success behind you, or both. Thanks alot.
 
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