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UncleHerb
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i am gearing up to buy a new recorder... i am looking hard at the yamaha aw2816. anyone have any opionions of this machine?
thanks
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Drummerbones
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If I'm thinking of the same unit as you (I'm lazy, didn't go look!) it has 16 tracks, but only 8 faders.
No thanks! The AW4416HD is on my Christmas list though....
A bit more expensive, but what you'd get would be drop dead wonderful in my opinion. Where else can you get motorized faders for that price (saw one on ebay awhile back for $1,600)?
Happy shopping
No thanks! The AW4416HD is on my Christmas list though....
A bit more expensive, but what you'd get would be drop dead wonderful in my opinion. Where else can you get motorized faders for that price (saw one on ebay awhile back for $1,600)?
Happy shopping
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mikemoritz
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Talk to the Green Hornet, or do a search on it. There was a little heat going on in a previous post between the D16 and the Yammy. Either one is killer.
Peace out,
Mike
Peace out,
Mike
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The Green Hornet
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Yo UNCLE Herb: [Oregano?]
Hello Mike -- thanks for the plug.
I am now getting around on my Yam 2816 quite well. I've still got many things to learn but I'm putting out stuff on cassette tape that is very high quality sound.
There are stereo analog outs on the back of the 2816 and it's pretty easy to record and run the mix right out the back into DAT or, as I'm doing at the moment, plain old cassette tape.
As far as the 8 vs. 16 faders; I don't anticipate doing much work on 16 tracks but it works on either the 4416 or 2816. So, if 16 faders is a mental necessity, go for that unit.
In my limited experience with a HD DAW, I find the converters in the 2816 do a GREAT job. For example, I've been running some stuff I did with a client on my Tascam 488 into the 2816 and remastering it on to tape. The results were so good with the first tune which I sent to the vocalist, he asked me to do the same with two cassettes he had done for Pocket Songs.
I don't have absolute control over the tracks as they are already recorded but it was quite interesting in how the sound was definitely upgraded by 16 bit. It is just as clear and bold as CD.
I can burn the CD but the tape is fast and since the result is so cool, I'll get to a CD when I've got a few tunes on the hard drive of the 2816.
I haven't used more than 60% of the unit's potential yet but each time I turn it on, I learn a bit more and running it through the steps is easier.
If you buy either Yamaha DAW, you should pick up a UPS back up power unit. I got one for around 70 pezzutos from Full Compass. This will prevent damage to the hard drive "in case" the power goes out while you're using the unit. The UPS I have will give me eleven minutes of power; it only takes 15 seconds to shut down the 2816 as per directions. Make sure you follow the shut down precedure no matter which unit you get.
If I can give you any more info, drop me line. Whichever unit you get, you'll be in for fun.
Green Hornet
Hello Mike -- thanks for the plug.
I am now getting around on my Yam 2816 quite well. I've still got many things to learn but I'm putting out stuff on cassette tape that is very high quality sound.
There are stereo analog outs on the back of the 2816 and it's pretty easy to record and run the mix right out the back into DAT or, as I'm doing at the moment, plain old cassette tape.
As far as the 8 vs. 16 faders; I don't anticipate doing much work on 16 tracks but it works on either the 4416 or 2816. So, if 16 faders is a mental necessity, go for that unit.
In my limited experience with a HD DAW, I find the converters in the 2816 do a GREAT job. For example, I've been running some stuff I did with a client on my Tascam 488 into the 2816 and remastering it on to tape. The results were so good with the first tune which I sent to the vocalist, he asked me to do the same with two cassettes he had done for Pocket Songs.
I don't have absolute control over the tracks as they are already recorded but it was quite interesting in how the sound was definitely upgraded by 16 bit. It is just as clear and bold as CD.
I can burn the CD but the tape is fast and since the result is so cool, I'll get to a CD when I've got a few tunes on the hard drive of the 2816.
I haven't used more than 60% of the unit's potential yet but each time I turn it on, I learn a bit more and running it through the steps is easier.
If you buy either Yamaha DAW, you should pick up a UPS back up power unit. I got one for around 70 pezzutos from Full Compass. This will prevent damage to the hard drive "in case" the power goes out while you're using the unit. The UPS I have will give me eleven minutes of power; it only takes 15 seconds to shut down the 2816 as per directions. Make sure you follow the shut down precedure no matter which unit you get.
If I can give you any more info, drop me line. Whichever unit you get, you'll be in for fun.
Green Hornet
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UncleHerb
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thanks guys... i did a search on it and read thru most of the posts so i am much better informed.the 2816 is lookin better all the time
how does the switching fader banks thing work? is this just one dedicated button to push or do you have to go thru a menu everytime you want to switch banks? pushing one button to switch banks would not bother me (especially if the button was close to the faders) but navigating menus would definitly be a hassle
this is a quote from the 2816 site:
The hard-disk recorder section also features an "All Rec" mode which allows up to 8 trakcs to be recorded simultaneously ideal for recording a band in one take, or for recording multi-miked drums, for example.
green hornet have you tried this "all rec" mode? is there some kinda tradeoff here? like less sound quality for 8 simultaneous recording tracks or maybe you can only record 8 at once with an expansion card or something.
how does the switching fader banks thing work? is this just one dedicated button to push or do you have to go thru a menu everytime you want to switch banks? pushing one button to switch banks would not bother me (especially if the button was close to the faders) but navigating menus would definitly be a hassle
this is a quote from the 2816 site:
The hard-disk recorder section also features an "All Rec" mode which allows up to 8 trakcs to be recorded simultaneously ideal for recording a band in one take, or for recording multi-miked drums, for example.
green hornet have you tried this "all rec" mode? is there some kinda tradeoff here? like less sound quality for 8 simultaneous recording tracks or maybe you can only record 8 at once with an expansion card or something.
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The Green Hornet
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Yo Uncle Herb: [SAGE]
There is a simple push button to record on tracks 1-8 and 9-16. These buttons are side by side on the 2816.
There is a "Quick Rec" button that I use when I am setting up a new song to record. This button opens a page on the screen and you use the cursor buttons to click on track 1, for example, and then across from that you click channel 1 and a magic little plug appears on the screen indicating track 1 is ready for action, and a blinking light goes on on the track button on the right side of the unit.
You can run and connect from track 1 to any of the other tracks.
For example, if you were overdubbing from a synth, you don't need to keep moving the 1/4 inch plug to a new track. Just go to the quick rec menu and use the cursor to cancel track one to one, and send it to 3, 4, 5, or wherever.
Then, you move the cursor to the execute button and push "enter" and, Voila, the new connection is ready for action.
I don't know the entire box yet but each time I turn it on I pick up a little more.
Green Hornet
There is a simple push button to record on tracks 1-8 and 9-16. These buttons are side by side on the 2816.
There is a "Quick Rec" button that I use when I am setting up a new song to record. This button opens a page on the screen and you use the cursor buttons to click on track 1, for example, and then across from that you click channel 1 and a magic little plug appears on the screen indicating track 1 is ready for action, and a blinking light goes on on the track button on the right side of the unit.
You can run and connect from track 1 to any of the other tracks.
For example, if you were overdubbing from a synth, you don't need to keep moving the 1/4 inch plug to a new track. Just go to the quick rec menu and use the cursor to cancel track one to one, and send it to 3, 4, 5, or wherever.
Then, you move the cursor to the execute button and push "enter" and, Voila, the new connection is ready for action.
I don't know the entire box yet but each time I turn it on I pick up a little more.
Green Hornet