Woke Up Dead again........

[RAMI]

I started a new thread on this one. I posted this a few days ago and then took it down. There were a few lines I didn't like at all.

Made a few tweaks to the mix, too. So let me know how much I fucked things up.

WOKE UP DEAD

Thanx in advance for any comments.

 

[JimmyS1969]

Now I see why you pulled the other down. This is really friggen cool man! Love it! I still hear another guitar layer needed on the chorus but hey, who am I?

Great stuff RAMI!

 

[Tadpui]

Great sounding mix! Guitars sound big and awesome, is that the same little Super Champ? The guitars meld with the bass really well. Nice drum sound too, I like the subtle accents on the hihat. The vocals sound spot on, and the background vocals are solid.

I can't think of a single suggestion for improvement, this sounds great on my system.

 

[Chili]

Yeah, to me the hihat really stands out here and in a good way. Totally loving the tone on the guitars. I think you dialed in a new sound for yourself and it works so nicely for a Rami tune.

I can tell you put in a lot of effort on the lyrics. Good imagery and coherent throughout the song. There are some parts where they feel forced. The line "I'm not myself today because I woke up dead" sticks out as not flowing smoothly. I think a tweak in phrasing or delivery could make go better. Was that the part you changed before? I didn't listen to the previous version.

Cool man, this one goes into rotation.

 

[Bulls Hit]

I listened to the original version and this one is so much better because you've got a proper chorus now. Previously there wasn't much of a change up to the chorus, and now you've made it appear like there's a big change up which is cool. You manage to bring everything up front at the same time, the vocal, guitars, drums and it's all clear and present. One day you will divulge how that is done....

 

[RAMI]

Now I see why you pulled the other down. This is really friggen cool man! Love it! I still hear another guitar layer needed on the chorus but hey, who am I?

Great stuff RAMI!

Thanx a lot Jimmy. I kind of agree with you about another guitar. But I'd have to change a guitar part for that. I can't just layer another guitar there because that would be 3 guitars playing at the smae time and I never do that. I have this thing about my tunes sounding like they're being played by a 2-guitar band on stage, so I never have more than that going on at the same time. But I do hear what you're saying and will think about how to do that. Thanx man.

Great sounding mix! Guitars sound big and awesome, is that the same little Super Champ? The guitars meld with the bass really well. Nice drum sound too, I like the subtle accents on the hihat. The vocals sound spot on, and the background vocals are solid.

I can't think of a single suggestion for improvement, this sounds great on my system.

Thanx a lot, I really appreciate that. Yes, this is the Fender Super Champ. I'm starting to get it down to 2 or 3 good, crunchy sounds, which is really all I want. Too much choice only confuses a non-guitarist like myself.

Yeah, to me the hihat really stands out here and in a good way. Totally loving the tone on the guitars. I think you dialed in a new sound for yourself and it works so nicely for a Rami tune.

I can tell you put in a lot of effort on the lyrics. Good imagery and coherent throughout the song. There are some parts where they feel forced. The line "I'm not myself today because I woke up dead" sticks out as not flowing smoothly. I think a tweak in phrasing or delivery could make go better. Was that the part you changed before? I didn't listen to the previous version.

Cool man, this one goes into rotation.

Thanx Chili. Yeah, the line you're talking about is one of the ones I changed. The older line was worse. You might be right about this one, though. I'll let it sit for a few days and who knows, maybe I'll change it again.

I listened to the original version and this one is so much better because you've got a proper chorus now. Previously there wasn't much of a change up to the chorus, and now you've made it appear like there's a big change up which is cool. You manage to bring everything up front at the same time, the vocal, guitars, drums and it's all clear and present. One day you will divulge how that is done....

Maybe one day I'll figure out how I do anything. I just record and wing it from there. I'm glad the little changes I made make a difference, it just wasn't "there" before. Thanx a lot Bull.

 

[Mr Clean]

Very nice. I have nothing to add. Sounds great to me.

 

[jiff 41]

ooooo!

 

[RAMI]

Very nice. I have nothing to add. Sounds great to me.

ooooo!

Thanx guys!

 

[JimmyS1969]

Thanx a lot Jimmy. I kind of agree with you about another guitar. But I'd have to change a guitar part for that. I can't just layer another guitar there because that would be 3 guitars playing at the same time and I never do that. I have this thing about my tunes sounding like they're being played by a 2-guitar band on stage, so I never have more than that going on at the same time. But I do hear what you're saying and will think about how to do that. Thanx man.

Actually, It doesn't necessarily need to be a third guitar. Just maybe more gain on them at the chorus to move the song. Just adding a third of the exact part with a bit more gain from the amp may do it. Not like it wouldn't be pulled off live. I doubt anyone would even know. Well, except we just talked about it here.

Slight embellishments like adding a layered guitar on this chorus, isn't going to sound like a third guitar player. Just a build up of energy at the crescendo, which in this case, is the chorus.

Just throw another track on there with a bit more gain from the amp. I bet you find that you don't need to change the riff. Maybe just mute one of the other guitars to make it pure like you like.

Or, just leave it like it is. I would give 92 out of 100 Jimmy smiles for this track as it is. lol!

 

[RAMI]

Actually, It doesn't necessarily need to be a third guitar. Just maybe more gain on them at the chorus to move the song. Just adding a third of the exact part with a bit more gain from the amp may do it. Not like it wouldn't be pulled off live. I doubt anyone would even know. Well, except we just talked about it here.

Slight embellishments like adding a layered guitar on this chorus, isn't going to sound like a third guitar player. Just a build up of energy at the crescendo, which in this case, is the chorus.

Just throw another track on there with a bit more gain from the amp. I bet you find that you don't need to change the riff. Maybe just mute one of the other guitars to make it pure like you like.

Or, just leave it like it is. I would give 92 out of 100 Jimmy smiles for this track as it is. lol!

Ah, ok. I see what you mean. I thought you were talking about adding a line to the pre-chorus like I think you mentioned in the other thread. Right, for the chorus, you're right. I can do that easily and probably will eventually. Thanx man.

Send me those 92 smileys with another kazoo ASAP. Thanx.

 

[JimmyS1969]

PM me your address again. I have the Kazoo for you!

 

[rayc]

I really like the lyrics.
I wrote a song with the same title about a year ago - if I posted it yours would seems even better than it already is simply by comparison.
the hihat is delightful.
The bass is GREAT.
Everything else is in the pocket. I don't hear the need for any additional chorus development but can't say that it wouldn't be good either.
Top shelf stuff Rami.

 

[RAMI]

I really like the lyrics.
I wrote a song with the same title about a year ago - if I posted it yours would seems even better than it already is simply by comparison.
the hihat is delightful.
The bass is GREAT.
Everything else is in the pocket. I don't hear the need for any additional chorus development but can't say that it wouldn't be good either.
Top shelf stuff Rami.

Great, thanx a lot Ray.

Yeah, the whole "bringing up the chorus" has 2 ways to look at it for me. I know the "typical" thing to do would be to add a guitar, or bring up an existing guitar and over-drive that chorus so it stands out more. But that's also the reason I might not want to do that. It really is the "formula" thing to do, and that's usually why I stay away from doing something. I'm not saying I'm above following a formula and being a little cliche, my music is all formula and cliche . But some things are just too expected for me to get that excited about doing them.

Thanx for all the comments so far.

 

[JimmyS1969]

How is that tune coming along RAMI?

 

[RAMI]

Which tune would that be? Chances are, it's going well.

 

[paw1]

Sounds really great! Through my cheap computer speakers it sounds like the vocals should be raised a bit. Seeing nobody else commenting on vocal levels, these speakers are probably not the best reference anyway.

 

[Llarion]

I started a new thread on this one. I posted this a few days ago and then took it down. There were a few lines I didn't like at all.

Made a few tweaks to the mix, too. So let me know how much I fucked things up.

WOKE UP DEAD

Thanx in advance for any comments.

I notice that the level of articulation in the hihats is higher than I remember in some past mixes; this is a nice evolution... I don't think it needs a third guitar in the chorus, but I thin it does need some differentiation, you have two crunchy parts doing mostly the same sort of thing, with the same general sonic palette. Maybe it's just an EQ tweak, or a different distortion, or ad a chorus or flange to one in the chorus, just something to give each part a more unique identity? Just a thought. Other than that, your normal stellar execution....

 

[Greg_L]

Dude the guitars sound awesome. You've really stepped it up there. That solo was cool as shit for the song. Just perfect to me. Everything else is awesome as usual. I really like the more subdued drumming too. Not really subdued, but you know, less flash and more straight going. The song is slow but it really drives strong nicely. Well done!

 

[RAMI]

I notice that the level of articulation in the hihats is higher than I remember in some past mixes; this is a nice evolution... I don't think it needs a third guitar in the chorus, but I thin it does need some differentiation, you have two crunchy parts doing mostly the same sort of thing, with the same general sonic palette. Maybe it's just an EQ tweak, or a different distortion, or ad a chorus or flange to one in the chorus, just something to give each part a more unique identity? Just a thought. Other than that, your normal stellar execution....

Thanx bruddah! I definitely see your point (and Jimmy's) about doing something to make that part different. But, at the same time, I don't know if it really needs to be different. I think of something like "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" as an example. When they change to the "I don;t know how....." part, nothing really changes sonically other than the chords. I don't think the chorus in my song is really a part that needs to be announced or changed. It's just a different part. I'm not saying I disagree with you guys, because I am caught between agreeing and disagreeing. Not sure that part has to be made "obvious" in the sense of "HERE COMES THE CHORUS. THIS IS THE CHORUS. NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE OTHER PARTS. THIS IS THE CHORUS". (If you know what I'm saying.

But I will let this sit and see how it hits me next time I listen to it. I really appreciate your insight, as always.