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Greg_L
Banned
This is probably the best tune from you that I've heard. I'm typically not really a fan of your adult contemporary styling, but this is pretty good. I'm not a Beatles fan either, but this has a weird-era Beatles, or maybe even a Queen feel to the arrangement. Pretty good work man.
I hate the fucking radio too. I haven't listened to music on the radio since around 1985. It's a bunch of shit. Hell, we don't even have a good "oldies" station anymore.
I only have a few small nits:
There's something in the softer vocal tracks that booms. I'm sitting in here with my drums set up and the snare is buzzing away with the vocals. Especially in the first verse with "turn" and "burn". But then later at like 2:38 those vocals are fine.
The bass and kick are pretty light in the bottom. This tune could use a nice thumping bottom end.
The lead guitar is ridiculous. It stomps all over everything.
The mix isn't very "organic". Very robotic. For not being into modern radio, it sure sounds over-processed and very MIDI. I don't know how you'd fix that besides using real instruments, but whatever. It is what it is. Perhaps a little less "mastering" would help. It's pretty loud.
Overall it's a really good job though.
I hate the fucking radio too. I haven't listened to music on the radio since around 1985. It's a bunch of shit. Hell, we don't even have a good "oldies" station anymore.
I only have a few small nits:
There's something in the softer vocal tracks that booms. I'm sitting in here with my drums set up and the snare is buzzing away with the vocals. Especially in the first verse with "turn" and "burn". But then later at like 2:38 those vocals are fine.
The bass and kick are pretty light in the bottom. This tune could use a nice thumping bottom end.
The lead guitar is ridiculous. It stomps all over everything.
The mix isn't very "organic". Very robotic. For not being into modern radio, it sure sounds over-processed and very MIDI. I don't know how you'd fix that besides using real instruments, but whatever. It is what it is. Perhaps a little less "mastering" would help. It's pretty loud.
Overall it's a really good job though.
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K-dub
Well-known member
You keep picking up on all the subtle stuff, G. 
Modern radio/music is souless ... going through musical motions ... call it ... robotic? It's been plasticized. The arrangement approach was again intentional ... right down to the insertion of the American Top 40 jingle for direct emphasis. The midi robo-drummer is God awful terrible. I do have better sounding drum samples, and more lifelike playing clips ... but this is what I meant to say.
I also layered all the old style harmonies over the top ... designing them as such to highlight the modern versus older contrast ... to add lyrical relevance.
I'll look into the mix nits you mentioned. Thanks G!
Best,
Kev-
Modern radio/music is souless ... going through musical motions ... call it ... robotic? It's been plasticized. The arrangement approach was again intentional ... right down to the insertion of the American Top 40 jingle for direct emphasis. The midi robo-drummer is God awful terrible. I do have better sounding drum samples, and more lifelike playing clips ... but this is what I meant to say.
I also layered all the old style harmonies over the top ... designing them as such to highlight the modern versus older contrast ... to add lyrical relevance.
I'll look into the mix nits you mentioned. Thanks G!
Best,
Kev-
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
I listen to NPR all the time and our local bluegrass station. Maryann McPartland on pno jazz and some of her guests.... Click and Clack...
Then the obscure stuff in the evenings.
Bluegrass with Bele... you either hate it or love it.
Welp... gotta listen to this after the first review in this thread.. Too loud a gtr solo... NO WAY
Then the obscure stuff in the evenings.
Bluegrass with Bele... you either hate it or love it.
Welp... gotta listen to this after the first review in this thread.. Too loud a gtr solo... NO WAY
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
and you guys don't like Lady GaGa..
Oh...I've heard this tune... see comments previous... cheezy synth filter sweeps and pno sound are my nits.
Weird kick too. You changed that.
Oh...I've heard this tune... see comments previous... cheezy synth filter sweeps and pno sound are my nits.
Weird kick too. You changed that.
nzausrec
Member
Bloody lovely.
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K-dub
Well-known member
Ha C ... yeah, over in RP end of last year. It's never been here.
I keep fiddlin' w/ it.
I keep fiddlin' w/ it.
queepy
aka Variaxman
I kinda dig the cheezy synth filter sweeps 
..Works for the vibe your going for on this song....Agree with Greg about the lead guitar level(Love the tone and playing there)...vocals are awesome...Cool subject, radio has been dead for a looong time in Detroit (Since WABX went off the air , '79 maybe)
..Works for the vibe your going for on this song....Agree with Greg about the lead guitar level(Love the tone and playing there)...vocals are awesome...Cool subject, radio has been dead for a looong time in Detroit (Since WABX went off the air , '79 maybe)
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Whatmysay
New member
There's a Devo thing going here that I really like. I like how it evolves from the Ooh La las to the dist guitar.
Th sonic choices are for obvious effect and work really well. With so much going on I'd just strategically EQ the tracks so things get to stand out more and don't fill the same frequencies.
I haven't listen to the radio since 1992 when I stopped working bars and off-licences and living in HK all I'd get would be Canto/Mando-pop!
Like your voice a lot
Burt
Th sonic choices are for obvious effect and work really well. With so much going on I'd just strategically EQ the tracks so things get to stand out more and don't fill the same frequencies.
I haven't listen to the radio since 1992 when I stopped working bars and off-licences and living in HK all I'd get would be Canto/Mando-pop!
Like your voice a lot
Burt
R
RAMI
Guest
I love the vocals, production, arrangement, lyrics, and the whole idea. This is really well put together and a great tune.
The only thing that keeps it from being perfect to me is the drums. I know you deliberately went for a "cold" "robotic" feel for them, and I understand that. But the probelm is (of course, this is all in my humble opinion, certainly not trying to teach you something) that the vocals and the rest of the production sounds so polished. The drums stand out because of that. If I was hearing this without having any background on the song or paying attention to the lyrics, I'd think "He did all the tracks over the drum machine, but he's going to add real or better drums later, right?" if you are going to keep those drums, I think you can bring up the kik. It's not hitting me in the chest, but I hear that it can. I think it's just slight volume thing.
This might just be me speaking as a drummer, so take it for what it's worth. I really think your recording, writing and arranging skills are awesome!!!
The only thing that keeps it from being perfect to me is the drums. I know you deliberately went for a "cold" "robotic" feel for them, and I understand that. But the probelm is (of course, this is all in my humble opinion, certainly not trying to teach you something) that the vocals and the rest of the production sounds so polished. The drums stand out because of that. If I was hearing this without having any background on the song or paying attention to the lyrics, I'd think "He did all the tracks over the drum machine, but he's going to add real or better drums later, right?" if you are going to keep those drums, I think you can bring up the kik. It's not hitting me in the chest, but I hear that it can. I think it's just slight volume thing.
This might just be me speaking as a drummer, so take it for what it's worth. I really think your recording, writing and arranging skills are awesome!!!
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TripleM
Well-known member
This is still my favorite song of yours. Sounds real good.
Thought I head an edit on the guitar riff at :22. Sounded like a bad punch. A bit too much flange or chorus or whatever on it. A good effect - I'd just dry it up a bit.
Love the "radio tuning" sounds. Love the harmonies.
Lead guitar has a bit much verb.
Vox sound great - mostly. There are some small sections where I'm getting close to hearing the "singing down a paper towel tube" thing. Not horrible, but borderline noticeable.
I had to struggle to come up with nits. Good job.
Thought I head an edit on the guitar riff at :22. Sounded like a bad punch. A bit too much flange or chorus or whatever on it. A good effect - I'd just dry it up a bit.
Love the "radio tuning" sounds. Love the harmonies.
Lead guitar has a bit much verb.
Vox sound great - mostly. There are some small sections where I'm getting close to hearing the "singing down a paper towel tube" thing. Not horrible, but borderline noticeable.
I had to struggle to come up with nits. Good job.
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singlespeak
New member
Forgot about this one. This song has such a lovely mood. Well summoned K-dub.
maximusbs
Brad Smith Music
Great tune! You've got a style that is very distinctly you. This is usually the kind of stuff (experimental-concept-acid-trip,etc) that I hit "skip" or change the station (XM!) when it comes from the Beatles, Queen, Pink Floyd, and the like. But, I liked this. Now, the lead caught me off guard - It was almost Marshall stack like and loud. I love that sound in any metal tune, but I resisted it here.....didn't fit....for a second...and then.... I gave in to it, and thought: maybe it's supposed to come in and kick the shit out of everything.....just like radio
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K-dub
Well-known member
Thanks all!!
I've been buried w/ things lately ... not bad, just busy. Glad you liked, and I ALWAYS appreciate and listen to what everyone says. I'm still learning.
Best,
Kev-
I've been buried w/ things lately ... not bad, just busy. Glad you liked, and I ALWAYS appreciate and listen to what everyone says. I'm still learning.
Best,
Kev-
joeym
New member
Radio...?? What's that??
Great mood you have going on in this one, Kev. And as usual, your songwriting skills are tops. The one thing I found too loud was the swirly synth thingy. But as with your drum choice it's all a question of taste. Fact is this is another damn good song.
Joey
Great mood you have going on in this one, Kev. And as usual, your songwriting skills are tops. The one thing I found too loud was the swirly synth thingy. But as with your drum choice it's all a question of taste. Fact is this is another damn good song.
Joey